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Old 08-26-2008, 10:39 PM
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Methane instead of hydrogen?

Just for the heck of it, I decided to try something my neighbor has been experimenting with, introducing methane into the PCV stream of an engine. While his methods are quite.....ah.....disgusting, I will say that I have taken my measly 9.2mpg up to 15.8mpg on my last 1000 mile test. It took a few months of testing to get a baseline mpg and then another 1000 or so to get my new figures.

Here is a picture of the methane extractor. The PCV hoses run from the PCV valve through the extractor and then to the intake. I'll get some better pictures tomorrow. Shot this one tonight after verifying my mileage increase.



The dark substance you see is actually human waste. It's put in a blender, (approx. 1.5 pounds) along with 1 cup of hydrogen peroxide and blended until smooth, then added to the extractor.

As the engine compartment warms up, the hydrogen peroxide interacts in the extractor with the "natural" ingredients and methane gas is released and then makes its way into the PCV stream. While I was skeptical at first, I must say that this really does work!

Here is a picture taken tonight while it's still hot and giving off methane gas. Notice the cloudiness of the extractor? Thats pure methane gas headed into my intake through the PCV line.



I love not having to fill up my tank every stinking week!


He is thinking of marketing a complete extractor kit as soon as the patent on the extractor is finalized and I'll for sure be in on the ground floor marketing this and making a ******* load of money! (pardon the pun)

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Don't mix any margaritas with that blender Jmark.

Sounds like a plan tho' MPG anyway you can get it.
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How often to you have to refill?
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How often to you have to refill?
Every morning after coffee!!
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Did you say human waste?? I think I saw this a few years ago on a Mad Max movie. Everything was powered by methane gas from pig sh@@. How often do you have to replace the uh stuff....???
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Every morning after coffee!!
Actually, we are going to start conducting tests to see what evening meal will yield the most responsive mixture the next day. I'm leaning towards Taco Bell.
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Actually, we are going to start conducting tests to see what evening meal will yield the most responsive mixture the next day. I'm leaning towards Taco Bell.
Taco Bell or Krystal onion biscuits/burgers, close tie.
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Old 08-26-2008, 11:51 PM
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Try a real good "Chili Burger" and Beer, that should work well combined with pickled hard boiled eggs.
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Deviled eggs, potato salad and beer
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Deviled eggs, potato salad and beer
also toss in some beans & Jalapenos for good measure.


i think a good title for this thread would have been, "disgusting MPG increase"
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JMARK,

As asked earlier, how often do you have to refill it? It could be beneficial to a septic tank system, or sewer system. Also you did not state how your vehicle is performing on it, like C**p? It does sound disgusting, and I wonder if employers in the automotive industry, in the near future, would have to double the "breaks" given to their employees.

All joking aside, it sounds like a very good viable option to increasing fuel mileage. God's Speed, getting it patented, and on the "market". Anything we can do to cut the fuel costs this much will help tremendously in dropping the fuel costs further, helping to keep our "hotrodding" spirit, hobby, or business alive longer.

Could not resist this. "Give a "s**t" to increase your fuel mileage? Buy this!"

Stephen
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New Source

Well we all know our politicans are looking for renewable energy sources and since they are "full of it" maybe they would care to donate to the cause!
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Funny, but its not even April...

What did your neighbour do that was even more disgusting
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(from one of the "Beyond Tomorrow" shows)
there is already a whole city in europe that is 100%(?) converted over to (dairy farms manure-sewage plant bacteria generated) methane in vehicles (with a gas tank for only when needed out of town)....
and the methane depleted manure makes a excellent slow release fertilizer which they sell!

Jmark,
maybe cow (diet and digested) manure is a better methane source?

test drive with a vac guage in the truck, that will likely show you what the methane is doing....more power generated=higher Hg=less gas pedal for the same cruise Hg and faster Hg recovery accelerating

"Mad Max" was just ahead of it's time!!!!!!

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You need to look a bit deeper

Hmmm, so you are adding bleach to the poop, eh?

And Methane is a colorless gas in its natural form ,eh?

and when you add bleach to poop, the bleach breaks down into....

OXYGEN!

Have your pal explain to you how he has constructed a methane generator & not an oxygen generator, since the introduction of Bleach into the poop mix is not required for the formation of methane. If will even delay that from happening, as it kills off the methane producing microbes!

You know what my wife would do if I borrowed her blender for this?

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