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Need wiring diagram for 1985 --2.3 ford---electronic ignition. No computer dirt track racer. Please help dont want to burn up another mudule.

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Is it the dura spark system? I can make copys and email them to you.
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May I have a copy too please?, info we can all use...maybe even knowledge base type stuff...

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Hey 4 Jaw, is that stoned puppy's dog you have as an avitar? :p
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Im not sure 2many its a stock ford out of a 85 mustang 2. 2.3 liter 4 cyl. The car is in granbury and I wont see it again till next sat. I do know the dist has six wires coming out of it. Red w blue tracer , Red w green tracer, Black, Blue, Green, Yellow. No computer will be used. Just need to know witch wires go to ign. switch, witch go to coil. Advance will be set and pinned solid. Any help will be greatly appreciated thanks.

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Let me work on this JD. I've never seen a EEC IV computed stock distributor on a car without the computer in place because the TFI module get its PIP and Spout signals from the computer. I've seen the older duraspark modules and distributors say from a 78 2.3 installed on the newer engs. The thing is, without the computer, the dist doesnt know when to spark. I'm wondering if an MSD crank pick up coil would work on this. I've always wanted to know if this would work. Now you have got me wondering how to figure this out. I'll ask around to see if someone has done this, then may beJON can use it in the knowledge base.
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DuraSpark II W/ TFI Coil



A TFI distributor will not work without an ECM unless you want to run it at full advance continuously. I would go with the DuraSpark II (Blue Strain Relief).

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Jon! this is definetly knowledge base stuff.
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Where do you come up with this stuff kultlulz??? Good job and thanks!
I agree, a dura spark is the best way to go.
I see in Joe Dirts response that he wants to set the dist pinned solid, doesnt want vac advance. JD have you seen this type set up? Is this what you run? You said you didnt want to burn up another module, you've done this before?
My questions are: do the 2.3 mini stocks run the TFI modules from ecm equip. systems without the ecm? If they do, do they just connect pip and spout circuits together to get what kultulz said about running without ecm at full advance? I'm wondering if a person can adapt a vac advance to the stator plate thru the hole where the octane rod sits? (thats the flat metal rod that holds the stator plate in position). Sorry abut all the questions, but I've wanted to figure this out for years. Kultulz, do you have a pic of TFI wiring you can post. I havent had time to figure out how to post pics yet.
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Thanks for the help guys. You are correct electronic distributer wont work w/o computer.
Just got word from brother in granbury. Got fed up with it and it went over left shoulder. He's going back to a 78 duraspark and going to modify it w/ gm module. but thanks to all any way. Dont think the puppy will make much of a meal---- more bread than dog!!lol.
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Not so quick Joe Dirt... I spent all afternoon looking up Ford ignition systems and reading about function. I see no way to use an EEC IV distributor w/out the ECM. For what its worth, the PIP signal from the pick up coil is a low voltage signal generated from the stator and sent to the module and ECM. The ECM uses a grounding driver in the ECM to ground the spout signal to the module which in turn completes the circuit to the minus side of the coil. So connecting pip and spout circuits together wouldnt work anyway!
I see you are going with the duraspark dist but the gm module??? Now I have more questions on how to do that modification. Keep us posted on that.
And one more thing.... whats this mini stock class racing? Is there a web site I can check out for that? They run toyota racing here, on asphalt. Next time I'm in Rockwall (got a son there) I wanna go see that.
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Im not too sure how he is modifying dist. to run a gm module but he got an article out of circle track magazine.
Junior mini stock is a class in dirt track racing. Basicly like a mini stock--- only for 12 to 16 year olds--- small cars mostly pintos and mustang 2 limited to production chassis no weight jacks 2.3 liter 4 banger, 2 bbl carb no fuel injection. The kids really enjoy it. Some of them learn very quickly and go pretty fast.If you come to rockwall get instructions to get to Kennedale go see races at cowtown speedway.Or get to Stephenville 281 speedway. Look for my bro. # 11 hot stock----80s camaro---- orange and white' his son will be racing the jr. mini stock this year. The 1 quarter mile dirt track races are allways exciting and fun. Lots of action. Thanks again for all the research and info. If I find out how to on the dist. mods. Ill post it. Incadentaly Bros hot stock is running full advance on a gm hei ign. and it seems to do fine. Well modified 350 chevy running racing gas. 586 hp---runs between 3grand and 7 grand on the 1 quarter mile track. One gear go very fast turn left repeat---
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I found out how to wire gm module to ford dist. Its very simple. I hope to draw up some diagrams and post them when I can get some time.
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Hey Joe ..... dont throw away that electronic dist just yet. I looks possible to use that dist using a 82/83 EXP/LN7 TFI module because that module doesnt use a computer to set timing or inj pulse width. It controls the module with out PIP and SPOUT. Now I just gotta find a wiring diag for that or go to pic and pull and find one to experiment with. Have to figure this one out cuz "I just gotta know"
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