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Old 06-24-2009, 12:21 PM
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Mixing Paint Question

Okay so i have a question. This is has nothing to do with types or brands just measument issues. How many people have seen those E-Z mix cups or really any plasitc paint mixing cup with the mixing ratios on the side. You know it has the measurements on it. Or better yet the mixing ratios. 8:1:1, 4:1:1 and so on. Heres my question........Why are the ratios so confusing? It says 1:1 but if you look at the actual 1:1 amounts(lines on the side of the cup) they look more like 2:1? One part is less liquid than the other one part right next to it in the same raito guide? I always thought 1:1 meant 1 drip of paint 1 drip of activator. Why is that the ratios are like that? If you are still confused it would look like this on the side of the cup..

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4- Why is one part more liquid than one part of the other
4- liquid?? maybe I am just an idiot, I am 100% Polish....
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because of the taper of the cup. cup gets wider as it goes up
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yea but as it says 1:1 the level 1 is different than the level 1 line in the same ratio bracket???? The diagram above didnt come out how I typed it. 1:1 the left side will have the numbers 1-4 than right next to that the same. The first number 1 will be at the 4oz level and the other number 1 will be at the 8oz level? so it would be 4 oz of 1 then 8 oz of the other for a 1:1 ratio? I realize that the cup gets wider that has nothing to do with what I am talking about. The amount of fluid to get to that level 1 is different in the same ratio mix why?
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Or is it because when you poor one part of something in and then mix in another part of another fluid that they actually are the same amount? If thats the same case then how can they assume that if all paint and primers etc...have different viscosity? Some are thick liquid and some thin? They may all mix different? i know this sounds dumb but I was so confused when I was trying to mix my clear at 4:1. It looked like I was supposed to mix 32 oz of clear to 16 oz of activator.
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yeah believe me I have used these cups for years and after mixing I run it through a viscosity cup and its right hard to explain but they do work
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The cups are confusing. Learn it right and it becomes second nature.

You don't pour to 1, then 2, then 3, etc. You pour to 1, then the next 1, etc. To mix more material, you pour to 2, then the next 2, etc.

I was confused at first, then it became second nature to me.

You can always use a cup graduated in pints, ounces, etc if it feels easier for you. I mix 1:1 and 2:1 materials in those 2 quart mixing buckets from Wal Mart all the time if I need more than a small quantity. For 3:1 and 4:1 etc it's just easier (for me) to use a "real" painter's mixing cup.
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yeah ive seen those cups and you are right. too confusing that why i never bought one
why would you have to buy a cup for a ratio of 2:1 duh!
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i think you answered your own question in your second post. numbers 1 - 4 on left side. 1 at 4 oz when mixing at a 1 to 1 ratio the other number 1 will be at 8 oz
so you would have 4 oz of paint and 4 oz of activtor.
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OK... I completely agree here. I use the cups but always wind up using the regular oz measurements and do my own math. Me doing my own math while painting is a scary thought. I never understood these things. Then after reading Fast Eddie D's post I looked at these things again. Here are the photos. So some of this makes sense to me now.

The 1:1:10%or50% I guess is really telling you that if you are mixing 1:1 use this scale from left to right. Correct? So if I want to mix a 1:1 ratio and pour in the first liquid up to the 4 line (depending on how much you need as a result), then move to the next column and pour to the 4 line with the next liquid. Now if you pour to the 4 in the next column it would add 10% or not and the 4 in the next column would add 50%. Is that correct?

So I guess for most of my stuff I am using right now (PPG Global and Envirobase Waterborne) I will be using the "1:1:10%or50%" and "3:1:10%".

OK... here are the photos... am I missing anything.
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