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Old 05-27-2011, 06:34 AM
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Model A Door Glass Removal

Looking for the ins and outs of removing the glass from a 1931 model a door. It's not broken but maybe breaking it is the easiest way? Then again I'm going to need to know how to replace it.

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Remove the screws from the sheetmetal cover at the top of the door. The glass can then be removed thru the opening revealed thru the top of the door. The bottom channel that the glass fits in (it is originally held in that channel with a rubber/cork glass setting material) can be unhooked from the regulator and removed with the glass still installed. Another method would be to slide the glass out of that lower channel (it can be very tight) and then slide just the glass out of the opening at the top of the door. The glass does NOT have to be broken to be removed.

The replacement glass can either be installed into the lower channel and then slid down the window tracks thru the top opening in the door and then re-connected to the regulator arm or attach the channel to the regulator arm first. Then slide the glass down the window tracks thru the opening at the top of the door. Getting the glass into the bottom channel can be frustrating as the rubber/cork setting material provides considerable interference between the channel and the glass. Lubrication and tapping straight down on the glass can assist setting the glass in the bottom channel.

Before installing the new glass, check the condition of the front and rear window channels. They may need replacing and are available at most Model A Ford parts distributors. Bratton's, Mac's, Snyder's and Mike's A-Ford-Able are all good sources for parts.

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Screws?

I don't see any screws? Where are they located? Maybe they've been painted over and I just can't see them.
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I know this an old thread, but still worth adding to if somebody has the right information.
I got a Model T coupe 1926/27 which has the same window winder glass channel etc, so I was wondering about installing my new glass.

Can some body please tell me what is the correct way to keep my window glass attached to the lower winder channel.

I have all new parts in my door including new steel winder channel and correct rubber as supplied by Snyders.
I pressed it in good, but still under load of winding it wants to pull off the glass.

My buddy tells me I need to add something to the rubber to make it swell and grip better.
Is that true and if so what do I add???
If so, what is it that I need to wet the rubber with???
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There is a product named GOOP that is sold in places like Lowes and Home Depot. It is an opaque (almost clear) plumbing contact adhesive with the consistency of silicone . Easy to apply and dries quickly. Apply it to the rubber/cork so that it will adhere to the window channel and the glass. Insert the glass. Be sure it is fully seated. Allow to dry overnight. Removal will be difficult if you break the glass after the stuff has dried, but the material can be removed by 'rolling' you fingers over it and scraping..
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Thanks for that info, I will check it out or else I may go with using urethane in a tube.
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Use a product called "Glass Setting Tape", available in various thicknesses from automotive glass installers. It is available in various thicknesses to get the correct fit.

Fold tape in half and insert glass into the V. Form tape snuggly to the glass. You need a tight fit into the channel. If loose get a thicker tape or add a additional layer. Your glass shop can help you with the thickness of tape if you take the glass and channel in with you. Lubercate the tape with engine oil and gently tap the channel over the tape and glass working you way back and forth until the glass is firmly seated, have the top of the window on a piece of carpet on a firm surface. Take a utility knife with a sharp blade and dull the tip with emery or a stone so it does not scratch the glass and trim the excess setting tape from around the channel. Clean the surplus oil up. The oil will continue to act on the rubber causing it to swell even tighter.

Got this info from a retired glass man that cut my glass for me. Worked good for me.

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First prize to you my friend, this is the answer I was anticipating somebody could clear up for me.
Well done and thankyou.
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If the glass is pulling out, sounds like the setting tape is too thin. Don't use urethaine or butyl to hold the glass in place.

If the window is too tight in the channels, it should slide up and down without excessive pressure, a bit of powdered graphite applied to the channel might help.

For the original poster, if he hasn't figured it out yet, there should be three screws holding the top of the door to the door frame that allow removal of the top and subsequently the glass.

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