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Old 11-19-2011, 05:59 AM
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gas tank

For years my company, Street Rod Works, was a major distributor of street rod fuel tanks. You would not believe some of the nightmare phone calls regarding fuel tanks.
That Model A cowl tank is 80 years old.....rust....yes. Your pump did not fail...it was plugged with crap last Summer.
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Interesting thread, just a thought but all VW Beetles have their fuel tank over the front seat foot-well, similar to a Model A and I don't see those guys worrying about moving the tank to a "safer" place. I do believe, as already mentioned, that hot rods and older cars are never going to be as safe in a crash as a new car.....build it as safe as you can but don't go paranoid and drive safe.
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fuel tank fires !!

FIRES !!
1. Major fire to our shop...grossly under insured for building, tools, inventory. No insurance for customers. July, 1976.
2. Rental property. Magazines were on plastic table. Under table was electric space heater. Table melted....major fire. Destroyed my tenent's interior, equiptment, inventory = put them out of business.
3. 5 weeks ago, I got a call: "Jim, Danny, I am in front of Bay Chevrolet watching the Merc burn. I smelled fuel & boom"...Dan's '48 Merc coupe had only been cruizin' for 2 weeks. 4 years up in smoke...sad. Pix attached.
4. 4 weeks ago got another call for parts. Bob's '46 Buick street rod had a fuel fire.
5. Lighting struck Bobby Alloway's shop about 12 years ago. 14 street rods destroyed. Only 2 were insured. All was lost.
6. My Uncle was Fire Chief of Washington DC for 18 years......many wild fire stories.

Point is, if ya have a choice ...SAFETY FIRST.

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Nice to hear a '32 tank can be used in my '31. I'm not a fan of a lap full of fuel either, is there anything special needed to mount the tank on a '31 frame?
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Nice to hear a '32 tank can be used in my '31. I'm not a fan of a lap full of fuel either, is there anything special needed to mount the tank on a '31 frame?
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First of all go back to my page 1 first post and where that tank is located. Since the Model A chassis ends somewhere in the 'middle of nowhere', this is a fabrication project that requires welding, fitting, possible rear cross member major modifications depending on what frame you are using - stock or aftermarket. As far as materials - pair of '32 Ford rear frame horn repair sections, frame horn covers if fendered, a spreader bar, a 10 or so foot length of 1-1/2 x 3 x.125 rectangular tubing along with an aftermarket '32 Ford gas tank.

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and another ------



and waiting the body with a temp. spreader bar --------



You get an idea of the amount of fabrication needed but don't get any concept of how long it takes to do the measuring and fitting with the body in place through the trunk floor or on your back
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32 tank on a Model A

Go to dagelsstreetrods.com which depicts their kits adapting a 32 tank to a Model A frame. Personally, I would want a fuel bladder in such a tank since it sits exposed at the rear of the car.
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Go to dagelsstreetrods.com which depicts their kits adapting a 32 tank to a Model A frame. Personally, I would want a fuel bladder in such a tank since it sits exposed at the rear of the car.
Daigles is not a really a very good 'kit' - good idea, but a mediocre and too expensive a design for what's supplied and why I built my own

As far as fuel bladder - where do you propose that all these '32 Ford owners or 'A' conversions, rodded or stock, source that bladder? Foam IS NOT a bladder. Also if you think about that location, it is fully away from the passenger compartment, located at the rear of the car vs the original 'A' cowl mount, the plastic saddle tanks which are just behind the splash shields at the entry doors or one even behind the trunk separator. Then consider '50s Chevy pick ups behind the seat, '60s -'80 Chevy/GM's mounted OUTSIDE the frame rails, 64-'73 Mustangs where, like a Pinto, Maverick, and many other cars, etc. are the trunk floor. Thinking even more about that - early Toyota's had trunk mounted plastic gas tanks or that VW Bug with tank just behind the front bumper(or their gasoline pass. compartment heaters). There are some compromises to build an older car - unfortunately, alternate gas tank locations are few so we build them as safe as we can with what we have to work with
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