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Model T brakes

I have a TT Ford truck. I sold the driveline and are planning to make it look like a stock farm truck but with a late model v6 engine/trans and rear. My question is does anyone make or know how to fit disc brakes on a stock T front end? Can I change spindles that will adapt the original wood spoke wheels. I can change the wishbone to a 4 link. I can keep or change the steering. But how may I keep those old wood spoke wheels? It does not have to go fast, I just want more than the original 20 hp engine.
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There are several company's that make disc brake conversions, www.speedwaymotors.com may have a setup. Not that you don't know this but just keep in mind that those OLD wooden spoke wheels were not made for any kind of horse power whether you use disc brakes or not. You also might google a Model T club and ask them your question, maybe one of those guy's has done the conversion........good luck.
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Someone is making disc brakes for a T pass car suspenion. Why not go to a later Ford V8 axle and run wire wheels ? The wood spokes on my Model T speedster used to make noises when I hit bumps or turned. I wondered when I was going to be scraping on the ground with a pile of kindling. I changed to 27 wires , Some guys run early chevy (20's) disc wheels. 6 bolts that match the T 6 bolt wood hubs. It's supposed to be an easy swap. Check out MTFCA or northwest vintage speedster.
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i did a google thingie and found "wilwood.com" to have an article of just what u want. see if it helps
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I found several links concerning the installation of disc brakes on the Ford Model 'T'. They all appear to be for the rear axle only and for the same manufacturers kit just different distributors.

I can not find any reference to install disc brakes on the original front spindles of the Ford Model 'T'. The Model 'T' Ford with the wood spoke wheels did not have front brakes originally.

If you swap the front axle to a later year (Model 'A' and up to 1948 Ford), then there are several kits available to install disc brakes on the later 1937-1948 spindles.

Here is Link 1

Here is Link 2

Here is Link 3

Here is Link 4

Because of the slow operating MPH range of a stock Model 'T' Ford, the wood spoke wheels may be acceptable to run. Personally, I would consider upgrading to later Model 'T' wire spoke wheels or Model 'A' Ford wire spoke wheels.
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Thanks for the info

Thanks for the information. I'l look into everything. Just wondering. Ever see anybody turn a set of aluminum spokes to look like the original wood ones? I have a lathe.
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I would be really concerned about the torque applied to straight wood spokes, by a brake trying to stop the hub, and the tire wanting to continue rolling
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Model T's did not have front brakes - at least the passenger cars. This outfit seems to offer some sort of discs, but after just a quick look. you would need to change wheels at a minimum - and no clue as to what else.
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i did a google thingie and found "wilwood.com" to have an article of just what u want. see if it helps
Thanks, I looked at the site. Not sure about the T. Search dates went back to 1936 cars. Also seemed expensive for what started as a low buck project for me. I appreciate your input.
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Model T's did not have front brakes - at least the passenger cars. This outfit seems to offer some sort of discs, but after just a quick look. you would need to change wheels at a minimum - and no clue as to what else.
This link is a good one and should be interesting info for the OP. It does show pics of disc brakes with the wood wheels on the front axle using the stock Model 'T' Ford axle and spindles. It also posts very important info concerning the front radius rods when using front brakes on the stock 'T' axle and spindles.
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What link showed the disc brakes with wooden wheels on a stock T front end?
Also, i'm new to this site and just registered. Hope I replied correctly. Don't want to insult anybody by not responding. Thanks to all who offered information.
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Go to the HAMB site and search Model t speedster. The site search does not work very well to find what your are looking for. I've seen a couple different Disc brake conversions posted there Powerwagonmaniac is building a speedster and there are picts of his conversion using Nissan 4 X 4 rotors. They use the Chevy 6 bolt pattern which is the same as model T wood bolt hubs.
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What link showed the disc brakes with wooden wheels on a stock T front end?
Also, i'm new to this site and just registered. Hope I replied correctly. Don't want to insult anybody by not responding. Thanks to all who offered information.
This link was originally posted by Ireland's Child.

Click on Model T front disc brakes to go there.

There are pics in the upper left. Scroll down for additional info and question and answers.
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Back to the original proposal to use late drive train, V 6 etc. The T spindles . steering parts, are not up to the job . I would not use them on anything other than a T powered build.. Originally designed for a 20 HP vehicle.. A V6 would be way over any safety factor. The T spindle design does not have a lot of swap possibilities to anything strong enough. If you want the TT beam you could look at having a later model axle ends put on but That is $ more than it's worth. Some of the T dropped axles are welded. . made from 2 T axles. I have a couple of 20's Dodge front axles that are heavier, but are 2 spring. then using something that old..too much work to add discs,
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Wow, lots of good info. I'm not sure which way to go now. I really wanted the original look with a simple late model engine for obvious reasons. I have collected original TT parts for over 15 years. My frame is like new and the body is close. It's just a hobby that I held onto like unlike all the great rides i sold and regreted later. Thanks for your insight. Someelse told me about the chevy 6 lugs.
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