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Old 10-24-2007, 11:44 PM
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Model T Chassis

Hi there I am finally starting my 1926 model t. I have the car designed how i want it to look. I want the so called "Rat Rod" nostalgia look with a chopped top and channeled floor. I want the car to sit low and level all around. I would like to use a model a frame, but they are becoming hard to find in my area. So I figured I would have to make one. Having no skill in this area I was wondering if anyone has any diagrams from books or step by step details and measurements they'd like to share from their experiences. Any help is much appreciated!!

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Old 10-25-2007, 12:13 AM
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Are you building a T roadster with a turtle deck, a roadster pickup, coupe or sedan?

Wescott has frame plans for a Model A:

http://www.wescottsauto.com/pdf2/FR-2.pdf

Here is a link to a step by step build of a Model A type frame:

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...model+rear+end

I am not sure why you would want to build a Model A frame for your Model T. Most people who build Model T's use a T bucket type frame although if you do not want to use a suicide or quarter elliptical front suspension and want to use a spring over or behind front suspension you may want to use an A type frame.

If you want to build a T bucket type frame for your Model T here is another link:

http://www.nationaltbucketalliance.c...ssis/index.asp
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Thanks a millions for the links! Im new to the chassis side of this project and am just gathering ideas and am not sure yet if the a frame is the way to go or not. The car is a 2door coupe. Thanks Chris.
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I love those T coupes and almost had one as a project but couldn't find any doors or deck lid.

I bet you want it to look like this one in Swift Current. For more pics take a look at my photo gallery - page 3.

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Here are a couple more links for step by step ladder frame construction. These frames have unique front and rear suspensions which you probably won't have, but the basic frame construction techniques will be the same.

This link
http://www.hotrodders.com/forum/jour...ge=5&reverse=1

provides the step by step instructions for this chassis:



And this link http://www.hotrodders.com/forum/jour...ge=5&reverse=1

gives the step by step for this chassis:



They all basically start like this:

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Toyota frame under a rat rod?

HAs anyone ever used a toyota pickup frame on a rat rod? can it be done? I have access to over 100 of them and the idea just poped into my head...i have access to 4x4 solid axle frames and ifs frames and 2wd frames.
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It probably has been done , but the Toyota frame will be too wide and it will also in my opinion look ugly on the front. Best bet is to build your own frame...they are not that hard to make if you know how to weld.
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HAs anyone ever used a toyota pickup frame on a rat rod?
Many threads here have discussed this issue. Just use the search function at the top of the page and enter s10 frame, toyota frame, mini pickup frame etc. etc.

The quick answer is...anything is doable, but this one wouldn't be pretty. Many have tired to make it look right, many have failed.
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Frame for sale in Alberta?

Does anyone have a model t or a frame for sale in alberta canada?
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Many threads here have discussed this issue. Just use the search function at the top of the page and enter s10 frame, toyota frame, mini pickup frame etc. etc.

The quick answer is...anything is doable, but this one wouldn't be pretty. Many have tired to make it look right, many have failed.
Not very pretty.





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Does anyone have a model t or a frame for sale in alberta canada?
I gather you are not confident enough in your fabrication and welding skills yet to build your own frame.

Take a look at grapro's journal - he lives in Calgary. In his journal he has built two frames like you want to build. He also belongs to a car club and will have many contacts and may know where to get a frame for your project. He probably has some contacts in Lethbridge as well. You can send him a private message (PM) and let him know what you are doing and see if he can put you on too a frame or some rodders in Lethbridge.

This is a link to his journal:
http://www.hotrodders.com/forum/jour...ge=1&reverse=1

Here is a link to his profile where there is a link to PM him:

http://www.hotrodders.com/forum/members/grapro.html
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Back in the dark ages of the early 70's I built my first T bucket frame by cutting the inch and a half tubing at home and then taking the pieces to a friend's shop to have him weld it up. If you do own a welder and don't think your welding is up to the task, you can still align and tack everything together and then get someone else to do the finish welding.

At todays prices tubing will probably cost you just under 100.00

I've suggested it on this board before but think about getting some 2x4s and mocking up the frame with wood.
You can play with the dimensions, get the kickup right at the rear and get the wheel base right before you do any cutting. I think my angles for the rear kickup were 60 degrees but you will have to calculate out what works for ou.
I would suggest using a round tube for the front crossmember. It just has a cleaner look.
If you decide to buy the tubing and have to have it "cut to haul" have them cut it so that you are cutting at the length of one straight rail so you don't waste tubing. Also set it up so that the seams of the tubing are on the inside because they will always show through the paint if they are on the outside.
I didn't mark mine and the guy who welded it up put both seams on the outside.

For ideas, look at the T bucket frames on various sites and adds. A search produces http://www.google.com/search?client=...=Google+Search

The tbucket.com site should keep you busy for a night or twoT deciding what you can use and what you don't want.
this photo came from the Webshots More T bucket photos.
Take a good look at the T with the rectangular frame in those photos.
It should be at the bottom of the page in the google search.
There area lot of ideas to latch onto in those photos. They have two Ts one with a wild frame and the other with the rectangular tube frame.
I can't get the link to copy and paste to take you directly there.
The sprint industries page is worth a look too. Take a look at their instruction manual.

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