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yragat 03-10-2010 10:17 AM

Model T VIN
 
Did model T's have a VIN number stamped anywhere,or did that come later?

matt167 03-10-2010 10:26 AM

I think the engine number was also stamped on the frame somewhere.. but in any case, Vins were nothing more than engine numbers in that era

rdupree 03-10-2010 10:34 AM

Yes, Model T's were titled based on their motor number. The motor number was stamped on the block above the water inlet. This is the ONLY number stamped by the factory on a Model T until some time during the 1926 model year production. At that time, they started stamping the motor number on the passenger side frame rail, roughly in line with the door. This way you could see the number when the floor board was lifted up. The number was stamped individually, with 1/4 inch tall stamps, and no special characters.

yragat 03-10-2010 12:11 PM

would that # be the same as the title # ?--I have an aftermarket frame and no numbers--have a plate that says body number with title number on it ---don't know if I'm legal???

matt167 03-10-2010 12:31 PM

engine number is a simple number, usually less than 10 numbers. not sure how many exact for a T, but if you got a number that matches the title, you should be good

yragat 03-10-2010 01:06 PM

mines a 26 and it only has 8 numbers. Pa has a streetrod plate available,but a friend of mine just got one and it was a real pain--have to go to special inspection stations (mine wouldn't pass anyhow--exaust don't go back past the doors) and it ended uo costing him about $200.00 ,and I have a personallized plate that I like better anyhow

rdupree 03-10-2010 03:36 PM

There were a total of a little over 15,000,000 Model T's made, with motor numbers that started with 1 and ending at just over 15,000,000. A 1926 Model T should have a motor number of at least about 12,500,000. By the way, the factory did not use commas, so the motor (and/or frame number) would be stamped as 12500000

yragat 03-10-2010 07:58 PM

Well I have number 10923381 :D

rdupree 03-10-2010 09:15 PM

That motor number was transferred to the Rouge plant on December 9, 1924. At that time the Rouge plant was just starting to build engines. The actual engine was probably built some time later in December for a model year 1925 car. Motor numbers stamped in the frame probably started after 12 million, but I cannot find a definite date.

techinspector1 03-10-2010 10:00 PM

I think the number was also stamped into the rear crossmember that located the rear spring.

rdupree 03-11-2010 06:56 AM

VIN or "motor numbers" as Ford called them were only stamped on the side of the engine block, and on the right frame rail of 1926 and 1927 cars. There WERE other numbers stamped on the body, but these are supplier ID and supplier serial numbers, which were meaningless to Ford. The rear crossmember was never stamped with any motor number.

yragat 03-11-2010 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rdupree
That motor number was transferred to the Rouge plant on December 9, 1924. At that time the Rouge plant was just starting to build engines. The actual engine was probably built some time later in December for a model year 1925 car. Motor numbers stamped in the frame probably started after 12 million, but I cannot find a definite date.

But my car is a 1926--maybe it got a leftover 1925 engine?????
Do U think it would be of any advantage to stamp the numbers on my frame? If so exactly where would I do it?
Thanks

rdupree 03-11-2010 05:08 PM

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I took this picture of an August 1926 built touring car I am restoring. The left edge of the masking tape is at the edge of the first digit. As you can see, the number starts about 3 inches ahead of the front running board bracket on the passenger size. I was surprised at the size of the numbers. They are about 5/16 inch tall. I doubt that anyone would ever notice if you used 1/4 inch metal stamps. Note that the numbers are not in an exact straight line, and there are no stars or other stamps besides the motor number.

yragat 03-11-2010 05:20 PM

rdupree,
Thank you very much,you have been very helpful
Gary :D


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