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Old 06-11-2013, 06:55 PM
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Model A Tudor Sedan Rat Rod

I'm set on building my own rat rod but I have a few questions before hand.
1. does the tudor sedan have a back seat or is the rear chassis to high up?
2. where would the gas tank go and how big is that usually? small enough to fit under the back seat or what?

I am just confused on how it would all fit in and diagrams would help and advice

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Old 06-11-2013, 07:04 PM
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Most low ride Rat Rods don't use a back seat. The frame kickup usually intrudes into the cabin too much. A traditional hi-boy can have a back seat and the fuel tank/battery can be under the floor or rear seat. 8-10 gallons works.
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Old 06-12-2013, 07:02 AM
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Original tank was under the cowl. I cant recall who, but someone makes a kit to extend the A frame in the rear to accept a 32 gas tank. Puts it out back where it belongs. Not sure it would fit your application though
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Here is a link to my '31 Tudor thread. I have some work done on the chassis design, just haven't posted it it.
Bubbling up my '31 Model A Project
You can see I am pushing the rear axle behind the body, stretching the wheelbase. This will get the car low, keep the rear seat and give me a place to put the fuel tank and electricals. I am planning to do a "roadster" or Pick up style rear body to finish it off.
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Ok, here comes one of those damn "opinion" things. Do you have a body? Get out there and work on it! Cad drawings of a "rat rod"? HUH? No, sorry, get out there and work on it!

On moving the axle behind the body, YEOW that is just all wrong. Those bodies are so beautiful, a mile channel and you are good to go WITH a rear seat.



Don't go too far out of the box. Just remember, there is a reason why someone else hasn't done it. I know I know, without people going out of the box all cars would be the same and boring, but there IS a reason why people don't go SOOO far out of the box.

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Ok, here comes one of those damn "opinion" things. Do you have a body? Get out there and work on it! Cad drawings of a "rat rod"? HUH? No, sorry, get out there and work on it!

On moving the axle behind the body, YEOW that is just all wrong. Those bodies are so beautiful, a mile channel and you are good to go WITH a rear seat.



Don't go too far out of the box. Just remember, there is a reason why someone else hasn't done it. I know I know, without people going out of the box all cars would be the same and boring, but there IS a reason why people don't go SOOO far out of the box.

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Went to high school with a guy that drove a 31 coupe built very similar to this sedan. I loved the car, even in the mid sixties when muscle cars were getting to be the fad.. A friend and I built a 27 T roadster/pickup with a 322 nailhead in it , I got expelled from school over it. Great times!!
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I say build what YOU want and not what someone else think's... As far as the back seat goes if you plan it out right you can have the back seat even on the ground.. If your going to run the axles outside the back of the body that will make it much easiers to have the back seat.... I seen some with the axle outside like your plan, And some was well done,, Some was also ******* looking..

But that can happen any way you build it... Go with what you want..You will be much happier in the end..
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Most of the Rat Rod Tudors I have seen use either:
  • the stock Model A tank
  • a round or oval Model T style tank,
  • A Moon style spun aluminum tank (picture shown isn't a rat rod, but it is of a moon style tank),
  • or a universal tank from a vendor like Tanks Inc.
    Universal Fuel Tanks

And all but the first option were mounted inside the body, behind the front seat, usually on top of the rear frame cross member.

Henry Ford didn't have an issue with it, but the personal dilemma for you is if you are comfortable with putting the gas tank in the area where you sit. That's the "rub" with a fuel tank on a fenderless Tudor, be it a street rod, hot rod or rat rod.
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What I am thinking of is extending the chassis and adding a mid section to the sedan so that the back part could have the kick up chassis and have a flat surface at the height of the back seat, but I am an eighteen year old who is about to take some colloge classes in welding and auto body would you think this could be easy for such a beginner? ill upload a picture of what I am thinking
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