[31ROC]

Gonna be switching to a 4-speed, dont think there's much room under the floor for pedal mounting, and dont really like having clutch & brake reservoirs mounted outside on the firewall.....so I am left with finding a spot under the dash, have not looked yet, should there be some sort of brace under there to mount these?
('31 Model A Coupe hot rod)

[WriterDennis]

Most likely, you will not have an adequate brace under the dash unless you install one. I believe you could build one easily enough by bending some tubing (one to two inch diameter) to closely match the shape of the inside of the cowl. Weld a flange on each end so that it can be bolted to the floor/frame rails. You can then mount your pedals and have something substantial to mount your steering column to as well.

Dennis W. Parks
Author of automotive how-to books

[lakeroadster]

I used a frame mount brake pedal from TCI on my Model A. I have also contemplated a 4-speed swap, they have a dual mount for use with a hydraulic clutch, see page 38 of their catalog http://www.totalcostinvolved.com/pdf...Catalog_22.pdf

[techinspector1]

Originally Posted by WriterDennis

Most likely, you will not have an adequate brace under the dash unless you install one. I believe you could build one easily enough by bending some tubing (one to two inch diameter) to closely match the shape of the inside of the cowl. Weld a flange on each end so that it can be bolted to the floor/frame rails. You can then mount your pedals and have something substantial to mount your steering column to as well.

Dennis W. Parks
Author of automotive how-to books

On my T, I used a brace made of 1 1/2" x 0.120" wall square tubing, like an upside-down "U" and welded it to the frame. Stiff as a minister's dick and worked well.

[31ROC]

yup...just took a peek under the dash.....nothing there, column is supported by a bracket welded to top of the cowl, pretty sturdy there, but nothing for pedals to be mounted to.....man I hope I'm not STUCK with this A/T!

[31ROC]

Originally Posted by lakeroadster

I used a frame mount brake pedal from TCI on my Model A See page 38 of their catalog http://www.totalcostinvolved.com/pdf...Catalog_22.pdf

nice looking package kit, but after looking under my floor, I dont see how that fits under there and pedals fit between the steering column too....

[lakeroadster]

Yeah, it's tighter than a tick. What type of steering box are you using?

[31ROC]

Originally Posted by lakeroadster

Yeah, it's tighter than a tick. What type of steering box are you using?

unisteer rack & pinion?

[lakeroadster]

And your current brake pedal mount / master cylinder is under the floor?

[31ROC]

Originally Posted by lakeroadster

And your current brake pedal / master cylinder is under the floor?

yes, its mounted to the frame, manual brakes, the pedal comes up through the floor practically underneath the steering column, a bit off to the right side, I dont see how a clutch pedal can fit on the left side of the column?

[lakeroadster]

The pedal arms can easily be heated and bent to position them where you need them.

Also keep in mind that your 4 speed will take up less width than the automatic.

Are you running under the floor exhaust?

[31ROC]

this is true...but the tranny's not the issue, its the lack of room between the frame and the steering column for the clutch pedal arm....
I am running Patriot outside headers/sidepipes, nothing underneath

[lakeroadster]

That's the tuff part of doing this after the fact. During fabrication moving the column toward the center a little is no big shake. Doing it now pretty much sucks.

It's easy for me to say, but I think you can make this work. Did you look closely at the TCI photo above? The clutch pedal hugs the frame.

Got any photo's of your current set-up?

[31ROC]

Originally Posted by lakeroadster

That's the tuff part of doing this after the fact. During fabrication moving the column toward the center a little is no big shake. Doing it now pretty much sucks.

Did you look closely at the TCI photo above? The clutch pedal hugs the frame.

yes I did...wish I had one to mock up or test fit, wonder if they'd lend one to me for that purpose? or buy one and be able to return? guess I'll call them tomorrow....thanks for all your input, maybe I;ll try figuring out how to post pics tomorrow to see if that helps anyone to see my delemma!

[Irelands child]

I have a reinforcing framework around the entire pass. compartment in my '31. Lots of 3/4 and 1" tubing, both round and square. There is not a bit of the dreaded Model A cowl shake or body flopping







You do run into a problem with a steering column - too low, no room for 3 pedals. Raise it higher, then exhaust manifolds get in the way and you can end up with more then three U-joints and an additional support bearing.





Dave W