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So I'm leaning for a 6 cylinder, what's my best choice? 292?

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292 is the hardest to find of the late models, it's a truck engine not put into any cars, that should give you an idea of how hard they are to find. The 50's equivalent would be a 261 or 302 GMC. These are the special inline sixes from GM and not real easy to find.

The late 250 is the way to go, and everything for any Chevy will bolt up to it, it's the same bell housing pattern as a 327-454 up thru the seventies.

You are just checking the waters right now, this is what you need to do. Move into the "community" a little more. You have a good start right here but don't think that a simple question is answered and you are on your way, move in, get comfortable with a few forums like inliners and http://www.stovebolt.com/ubbthreads/ and there are many others who deal a lot with these motors.

Just take it easy and study and you will find all this will come very easily, these motors are VERY popular but a "secret club" like popular. You could go to rod shops and they wouldn't have a clue and want you to put a V8 in it (what they DO know) and that is all you would hear. But get in with the right community and you will find out there are a LOT of people into these motors who live and breath them.

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So I'm leaning for a 6 cylinder, what's my best choice? 292?

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An engine from 1953 on up, 235cid or whatever you can find locally up to a 302cid Jimmy and preferably originally supplied by GM/Chebbie with Powerglide so it has the pressurized lube oil system and hydraulic lifters. The bigger cid engines might be limited to performance parts availability, but for me, been way too long since I've looked, so may be wrong. Wayne made many of these parts so an EBay look might be worthwhile

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Awesome, thanks Brian, I will definitely keep exploring possibilities, I think a 6 cylinder would look pretty nice, my chevy has a long but kind of narrow space for the engine, so I think it makes sense.
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No valuable input here but i must say I LOVE the look of an LS powerplant in an old car. And a FI modern v8 is probably going to get better mileage than any 30 40 50 yr old 6 cyl motor, in case thats partly why you were leaning to a 6cyl
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People get caught up in the " who needs computers and FI ?" The car makers have been putting computers and FI in cars and trucks for 20+ years yet a lot of hot roders won't give up their carbs and points. If you want dependable and fun to drive why would you fight a carb and antique ignition? I can go out anytime -20to +90 and my S10 doesn't argue it starts and runs smooth right away. I have a carbed 350 in the frame of my Model A right now. I'm really thinking about a 4.8 as soon as the 350 gives me any fits.
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Could changing to a LS be a second phase? thinking about costs and modifying implications…

Maybe first a 6 cylinder and try it out, in case it gives me trouble in the long run figure out if I change it for a LS?

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Start with a 250 inline 6; it takes a lot less engineering and compromises to fit in the car. These things went down the road fine with 3.90s/4.11s etc in the rear gear and no problems. Add a 3spd stick with overdrive; or a 200-4r. Life is good. If you want to get trick; there are plenty of guys who have converted inline 6er's to fuel injection out there; especially in the jeep world. The amount of money you'll "save" in fuel economy over the build cost of having to re-engineer the whole front half of the car, a high pressure efi-type fuel system, street rodder headers, serpentine belt drive system, laptop or tablet, wiring harness, modern transmission and possible transmission control module, will take a decade to achieve. Thats if you ever get the car built...for a first time hotrodder its just asking too much.

Id rather drive my car, than sit and stare at it the first 5 years I own it.

A modern 250 6, with twin carbs and a performance cam and exhaust package, coupled to a 3spd with OD...Much like HKEstes flathead setup, is reliable, driveable fun to drive and can certainly be modernized to some degree with EFI, electronic distributors, a modern camshaft profile, an aluminum head etc. AFTER you get the car built and driving, turning and stopping

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There's no denying a LS conversion isn't easy, I had trouble my self with changing my S10 over after having a Screaming 327 with NOS but having the desire for DD helped. In Fishburns case I would have to determine just what I want for a streetability and How much of a budget or ease of getting my car on the street. It took me 3 months to do my S10 and it already had a V8 in it when I started. Sometimes I miss the Lumpy Cam but boy I love the 21 mpg's I get now. I also like the fact I can buy unleaded regular and don't have to but premium any more. There's a trade off, progress is not always easy and changing people views and minds isn't as simple as "DO IT MY WAY because I'm RIGHT and Your WRONG" . You and only you can determine the future of your Rod.
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I'd like to throw in a wildcard. Pontiac OHC I-6 the "SPRINT" came with dual exhaust manifolds, a 4-barrel Quadrajet and a high lift cam. These things were very impressive engines from the late 1960s and they look cool as hell doing it. Standard bellhousing. You'd need engine mounts, Im sure these are available from the Pontiac resto guys. They were used in the Firebird, the LeMans and one other Pontiac
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Awesome, thanks Brian, I will definitely keep exploring possibilities, I think a 6 cylinder would look pretty nice, my chevy has a long but kind of narrow space for the engine, so I think it makes sense.

Here is what I am running in my 48 Chevy pickup, a 1953-54 Corvette 235 with three side draft Carter 1 barrels.

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The '37 will have the predecesor to the 216 6 right from the factory ( 207 IIRC? ). The 216/ 235 are basically the same engines up till '53 when the 235 went full pressure oiling, and the earlier engine is supposed to have the same bellhousing pattern from what I've heard. So you could make it bolt up and run good, if you want a 100 mph comfort cruiser, it won't do what you need. But if you go in with moderate expectations, it could cruise 55-60 all day long.. My '51 Chevy will start in negative temps with a couple revolutions on the 6v starter ( car still 6v ). It will run all day, and not get hot and it has an exhaust note that sounds like a 1950's grain hauler pulling a hill.. Oh, and the only thing I ever did was change the oil, plugs, wires, fuel pump and originally a new points/ condensor before I fired it off for the first time.. It now has electronic ignition but I've never even rebuilt the carb..

My '95 K1500 has a long crank that I've never been able to get rid of, and that's TBI EFI
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Tom Langdon was an engineer with GM for years and now owns Langdon's Stovebolt Engine Co. Langdon's Stovebolt | Specializing in Inline Six Cylinder High Performance Parts specializing in GM in-line 6's and also does some parts for Mopars which is how I came in contact with him. Have talked to him a few times ont he phone and he is a wealth of knowledge on in-line engines and is more than willing to share that knowledge.
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