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Old 10-26-2007, 09:32 PM
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Hey all...Here's my issue. My 71 Chevelle has had starter problems for a while. After some adjusting with shims at times and times without shims it will start for a few times then grind, then just start smacking the flywheel. I put a new flywheel a while ago as the teeth were bad, a new Optima battery and just got a new mini starter, (before I only tried stock ones). The engine is a 13:1 compression 360. I have three shims in the mini starter now...It sounded great after putting the shims in and the engine was cranking strong. Then SMACK. Hits the flywheel and gets pretty hot. It has new bolts...Flywheel teeth are good...Any ideas?
Also, the stock starters had the two wires coming from the distributer, each going to two terminals on the starter. The new mini starter only has one terminal, other than the larger one for the battery wire. Which wire goes on that terminal? One or both or..?
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Old 10-27-2007, 12:35 AM
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Loosen the bolts, retighten, then Torque to about 45 ft lbs. The grind means the starter is moving.
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I'll definitely do that and thanks for the suggestion!
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well the 45 lbs didn't make a difference.

How exactly should the paper clip clearance look like?
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im haveing the same problems with my starter i a 350 its know a 383 stroker need help with it
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[QUOTE=lostinthought] It has new bolts ...QUOTE]

Does it have the correct bolts ??

Starter bolts have a knurling on them to help keep them from moving.

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Old 10-29-2007, 11:23 PM
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Hi,
Take the starter back out & remove
the solenoid, then put the starter back in,
that way you can move the starter drive
back & forth by hand, this way you can
check the mesh & fit of the drive gear with
the ring gear, there should be about a paper
clips thickness between the gears.
Good luck,
rich
PS The Wires, one is the start side, the other
is the run side, it was for 12v start-up & 9v
running, with the old points & cond. dist. & coil
do you still have this set-up?
PSS Another thing about the starter fit, if you find the
drive to be to far away from the ring gear,
you can file the housing to get it closer,
& to stop the starter wiggle, put a brace/bracket on,
your car came with one, if you don't have it, you
can pick one up at a chevy. dealer, they're cheep
& they work


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Deuce, Yeah it has the correct bolts. The starter came with two new ones. I used 45lbs of torque and no washers.

Richard, I have an HEI set up now so I'm wondering if I still need both wires? I had them both on the old style starters. But the mini starter doesn't have two terminals, just the one.

Also, the brace won't work on a mini starter...right...?

I'll check with a paperclip tonight though for sure and thanks again!
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Hi,
Where are you getting the 12volts for
the HEI from? You do know the hei
requires 12volts to run correctly, & you
can't get it from the old two wires,
one is a resistance wire allowing only
9 volts through, the other only supplies
12 volts while the start circuit is engaged.
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Well the flywheel is removed and it looks fine. No cracks and the teeth are perfect. I'm just going to go ahead and get a new one since it's already out. So if this problem continues with the new flex plate I suppose the next step is shaving the starter.
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The wire from the ignition switch start position should go to the small terminal on the starter. The other small "run" wire should be hooked up to the big battery cable wire.

The most problems on early Chevys is they need a diode in line at the alternator to allow them to shut off with the key.

Was this your original problem?
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No but thanks for all the info! The original problem is the starter grinding on the flexplate. It was doing it with the original starter...It's now doing the same thing with a high torque mini starter. Took the flex plate out and it looks fine and is the correct 168 tooth plate. So I'm putting a new one in. If the problem continues I guess I'll starter shaving off the starter housing to get it to sit closer in....?
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