[Augusto]

Originally Posted by Irelands child

14st 9 pounds - geeeeeze. You Nort'ners think all of us here don't know good stuff like that

Agusto - don't think you can really shift the engine to the right too much and run generally available headers. Why not just find a huge engine (454 to ???) and install it - lots easier then chopping out a firewall and cobbling up brakes and clutch as well as your leg room. Then there is the problem of just working on the engine and the added time to do simple jobs like adjust valves or even change spark plugs.

Even this is tough to work on:

I don't plan on making a hole in the firewall like the one in your pic, my idea is removing it intact and moving it rearwards with everything attached to it, brake and clutch included, this will not alter the geometry of anything, all the stuff will still be in the same place only a few inches back. I will also remove part of the floor attached to the firewall, so the trans tunnel and shifter hole will still be in the same place but closer to the rear.

[OneMoreTime]

Just had one of my brain locks but if there are no rules to speak of why not place the engine in the bed..?? I think with a shorty glide and a tubbed solid rear suspension like a dragster it has a chance of working...Just for grins...

Sam

[Irelands child]

Agusto - I tend to agree with Sam about putting the engine in the bed as I think that cutting out a firewall and moving it back opens up even more problems. If you do want to keep the engine in the front, just remove the firewall and start over with a fabricated 20ga sheet metal replacement then use a race car oriented pedal system like a Wilwood or Howe (yeah, I know where you are and the problems with importation)

Poncho, a stone is ~14 pounds. Dang, I thought you Commonwealth folks were still figuring that way

Dave W

[geezer69]

when i helped a friend move his engine bach it wasnt that hard to do but . i think he told me that in his class he runs in that you cant mod the fire wall. anything to that guys.id hate to see a feller get in a mess for doin it.

[OneMoreTime]

I have not been active in racing for quite some time but back in the day you were allowed 10% setback in gas class and 25% in altered..that was measured from the centerline of the front axle to the #1 plug...Some of the stock chassis will allow a 10% setback with not a lot of work..An el-camino is not one of them..

Sam

[engineertom]

Like everybody says, watch the rules, one thing you don't want is a straight driveshaft from trans to rear end. You'll get a vibration. Even a couple degrees works

[Augusto]

Originally Posted by OneMoreTime

Just had one of my brain locks but if there are no rules to speak of why not place the engine in the bed..?? I think with a shorty glide and a tubbed solid rear suspension like a dragster it has a chance of working...Just for grins...

Sam

Please don't tell me this, I might end up doing it..!!

pulling wheelies has been a recurrent dream for years lol lol

[Augusto]

Originally Posted by engineertom

Like everybody says, watch the rules, one thing you don't want is a straight driveshaft from trans to rear end. You'll get a vibration. Even a couple degrees works

my friend, we have the best rules: NO RULES

[Augusto]

Originally Posted by Irelands child

Agusto - I tend to agree with Sam about putting the engine in the bed as I think that cutting out a firewall and moving it back opens up even more problems. If you do want to keep the engine in the front, just remove the firewall and start over with a fabricated 20ga sheet metal replacement then use a race car oriented pedal system like a Wilwood or Howe (yeah, I know where you are and the problems with importation)

Dave W

Dave, we have good news about importing stuff, the government has made things easier a lot, we even have a tax break for things weighting up to 4kg and/or $400.00 and several couriers charge $4.00 per pound from Miami Florida to Ecuador, Summit and Amazon love our country now

Making a firewall from scratch is another option I was thinking, I would love making it out of aluminum but I'm a little short on cash... as usual

And since I tore up everything from my car I definitely will move the engine, I'll do it before I start with the roll cage, seems like the more I move it back the better will be, am I right..??

[Augusto]

A pic of my ElCamino, as you can see I fabricated this "truck" from a Malibu sedan, welded the rear doors and built a bed from scratch, I left the cab a little extended to have some extra room in the cab for a subwoofer or something, but when I decided to make it a drag car that room is not needed anymore, now it would be ver useful to relocate the driver's seat very rearwards and allow me to get the engine inside the cab.

[OneMoreTime]

Heavens to Murgatroyd..you have a lot of room to set the engine back..get the seat back up against the rear bulkhead and put in a firewall box and dash and bring the engine back a bunch..If you tub that puppy with some nice wide slicks then wheeliville here we come..

Sam

[Augusto]

Originally Posted by OneMoreTime

Heavens to Murgatroyd..

Sam

thanks God for the internet:

Heavens to Murgatroyd

[Augusto]

Originally Posted by OneMoreTime

Heavens to Murgatroyd..you have a lot of room to set the engine back..get the seat back up against the rear bulkhead and put in a firewall box and dash and bring the engine back a bunch..If you tub that puppy with some nice wide slicks then wheeliville here we come..

Sam

See I can probably move the engine 16 inches or more.

there's no room for tubs, the frame is too wide in the G body's, but I'm thinking of fabricating a 4 link or ladder bars rear end, I have to get rid of the 7.5 anyway, I have a 12 bolt with 4.11's ready for it.

I'm considering a LINCOLN LOCKER diff also.

[gearheadslife]

Originally Posted by Augusto

thanks God for the internet:

Heavens to Murgatroyd

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[engineertom]

You guys got it all wrong, put the engine in the bed facing the rear of the truck, trans behind it and the rear end in the front of the car. That way there's no way you'll do front end wheelies. Putting a DeSoto Hemi in my 54 Chevy, found out the old car ain't as big as I thought when the engine goes into the firewall