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Muncie hurst shifter will not go in reverse

I can't get my Hurst shifter to shift my muncie into reverse. I have tried adjusting the linkage using the 1/4" drill bit method with no luck. I can shift the transmission into reverse if I get under the car and manually do it, but the shifter will not budge left and up. It will shift 1 through 4 with no problem. I disconnected the reverse linkage from the shifter (leaving the 1-4 linkage attached) and that wouldn't allow me to shift the lever into reverse either. I can't tell if the shifter isn't able to go left enough or if it is bound up when I try to push it up after I push it left. This shifter has been this way since I bought the car a few weeks ago. What should I look for?

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Is the linkage arm on the trans withthe correct orientation?? reverse lever should point down from the bolt that holds it to the trans.
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I pulled a very hard shift in my '65 GTO once, it was brand new, and it rotated the shifter brcket to the rear just enough to cause shifting issues.
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Is the linkage arm on the trans withthe correct orientation?? reverse lever should point down from the bolt that holds it to the trans.
The linkage was in the bottom hole and I moved it to the top hole after reading another online post, but that didn't solve my problem. I'll take another look.
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I pulled a very hard shift in my '65 GTO once, it was brand new, and it rotated the shifter brcket to the rear just enough to cause shifting issues.
Are you referring to the shifter bracket that mounts directly to the transmission or a bracket within the guts of the shifter?
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I can't get my Hurst shifter to shift my muncie into reverse. I have tried adjusting the linkage using the 1/4" drill bit method with no luck. I can shift the transmission into reverse if I get under the car and manually do it, but the shifter will not budge left and up. It will shift 1 through 4 with no problem. I disconnected the reverse linkage from the shifter (leaving the 1-4 linkage attached) and that wouldn't allow me to shift the lever into reverse either. I can't tell if the shifter isn't able to go left enough or if it is bound up when I try to push it up after I push it left. This shifter has been this way since I bought the car a few weeks ago. What should I look for?
Worn bushings will play havoc on easily getting reverse.

You should be able to feel the rather strong spring pressure that pushes the lever back towards neutral. If you're not feeling that, the alignment isn't correct.

The alignment can be done w/a 1/4" bit and still (w/worn bushings) be problems w/getting reverse.

A similar problem and resolution- http://www.camaros.net/forums/archiv.../t-166212.html
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I advise all my customers to buy a 'Hurst Pit Pack' (bushings and spring clips) and to usually opt for the HPP with the steel parts instead of the nylon.

Since most of my customers will be doing an R&R with the trans and removing the shifter, it only saves aggravation later.

Also, it seems since Hurst has changed hands 47 times or whatever, their stampings and castings have degraded substantially. One of my customers has a page on his site dedicated to this problem. Brand new shifters so out of whack that the linkage rods run into each other.

Heres a link to the page on his site:
http://5speeds.com/shifter.html

HTH and YMMV

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Hey Nate (or anyone else)-

Who sells the OEM-type Hurst shift levers that 'snap' in place instead of bolt on?

Actually, all I really need is a broken lever- just the part that enters the shifter, plus a couple inches- so I can graft on the stick shape I need for a wagon bench seat.
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Cobalt,

are you referring to the little shift levers that push into the sidecover, that are pre-1969 or thereabouts? These "stud mount" shifter shafts were a poor design. We make a replacement that is the same dimensionally, but uses the bolt on design.

No one makes the ones with the stud on them as far as I know; so you'll have to source a NOS set.

I hope this is what you were looking for LOL, If not, my apologies.
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Is your Hurst shifter new or used? Sounds as if it's used and you have some wear issues to deal with.

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Cobalt,

are you referring to the little shift levers that push into the sidecover, that are pre-1969 or thereabouts? These "stud mount" shifter shafts were a poor design. We make a replacement that is the same dimensionally, but uses the bolt on design.

No one makes the ones with the stud on them as far as I know; so you'll have to source a NOS set.

I hope this is what you were looking for LOL, If not, my apologies.
This doesn't have a stud, it attaches much like the headrests of about the same era, you remove it by inserting a taped over hacksaw blade between the shift lever and the spring-loaded pins that secure it.

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Is your Hurst shifter new or used? Sounds as if it's used and you have some wear issues to deal with.

Vince

The shifter appears to be used. The linkage from the shifter to the transmission and the nylon bushings appear to be new. Do these shifters have a common area where they wear out? I have never torn one apart.
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I advise all my customers to buy a 'Hurst Pit Pack' (bushings and spring clips) and to usually opt for the HPP with the steel parts instead of the nylon.

Since most of my customers will be doing an R&R with the trans and removing the shifter, it only saves aggravation later.

Also, it seems since Hurst has changed hands 47 times or whatever, their stampings and castings have degraded substantially. One of my customers has a page on his site dedicated to this problem. Brand new shifters so out of whack that the linkage rods run into each other.

Heres a link to the page on his site:
http://5speeds.com/shifter.html

HTH and YMMV

Nate

I'm not sure which rods they were without looking again, but I noticed that two of the rods are touching depending on which gear I was in. I believe they were the 1-4 rods, but it could have very well been the reverse rod. I thought to me self, "that's odd they are bent that way." Thanks for the link, I will check it out later when I get home.
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Worn bushings will play havoc on easily getting reverse.

You should be able to feel the rather strong spring pressure that pushes the lever back towards neutral. If you're not feeling that, the alignment isn't correct.

The alignment can be done w/a 1/4" bit and still (w/worn bushings) be problems w/getting reverse.

A similar problem and resolution- http://www.camaros.net/forums/archiv.../t-166212.html
Thanks, I'll start by inspecting all of the bushings and I'll try the 1/4" pin alignment again. That seemed to solve the problem in that forum.
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As mentioned when the 1/4" pin or drill bit is inserted you should be able to move the shifter all the way over to your left and feel the spring tension for the reverse lever.

Vince
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