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Old 02-13-2005, 02:05 PM
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Muscle Car Speech

Hi eveyone. I'm somewhat in a bind. I have a speech tomorrow about 60's to 70's american muscle cars. I have a pretty good general idea of what I want to say, but now I need the info and a visual aid (something on a poster board). I was going to explain what destinguishes a muscle car from a regular car or even a hotrod. I was going to use a Chevelle, Charger, and Torino as examples and talk about them for awhile. It's an informative speech, 4-6 minutes long and I just need a little help for a visual aid and any little known info some of you guys that were aroung back then or if you're a buff on this subject. Any help would be very much appreciated. Thanks

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Muscle Car..................Intermediate body, with a Big Block engine.

That fits those 3 cars you listed.

There are others that are not muscle cars.
Mustangs, Camaros, Barracudas etc were "Pony cars"

Of course, when one of those is fitted with a Big Block, what does that make them?

HMMMMMMMMM...gets confusing......

It's hard to define what a "Muscle Car" really is..............that is your 1st problem. It means different things to different people. Some feel that Muscle Cars weren't built after 1972, others will disagree....................
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What does the term intermediate body mean. I was going to stick with the big block cars and only mention that that technically the other cars could be be muscle cars but focus on those three and compare them to sedans of their time. Any ideas for a visual aid to put on a posterboard? Thanks.
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An "intermediate" was a mid sized car, like a Chevelle, Coronet, Cutlass................or the original Muscle Car....Pontiac Lemans, that they made the GTO option for.

There.........that should get the "Original Muscle Car" debate going....................
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Can anyone tell me what motors where in these three? The main motor and optional motors? I'm searching right now, but any already know info would be appreciated. I know the chevelle had a 350,396,or 454. The charger could have had one of three I believe.
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Charger....318, 383, 440....or the 426 Hemi.

Torino.....302, 351, 428......

That's around 69-70..............other years may vary.
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You might want to look at musclecarclub.com. They have a huge database of knowledge on all the cars mentioned and more. They list all the engine options and a pretty good history on the cars.
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Yep, everyone you ask will give a differant answer.
In its original form, yes Id say a midsize car with a large engine.
However, I dont think its that cut & dry, that means youd have to leave out the 409 Impalas & 427Galaxies, as well as the L-79 327 or any Novas, Camaros, Fbirds Mustangs, Cudas challangers etc. so a hemi Cuda isnt a Muscle car ? a 375 Horse 396 camaro isnt a muscle car ? well depends who you ask...Ill call it a muscle car all day.
sure, some people refer to the camaros, Stangs etc. as Pony cars....but I think thats just a sub catagory of a muscle car.
Ive got a friend with a 66 Chevelle with a 427...he refuses to refer to it as a muscle car....cause it was originally a 283 in it.
So, you might want to explain in your speech, thatits not an exact term.
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Thanks guys. I found musclecarclub.com in my search. It looks like its got what I needed. True, that ponies are a sub-class, in my opinion. A camaro is a muscle car to me. But I was using the big cars as examples. I will use the part of the term depends on who you ask. But undeniably a chevelle ss, charger r/t , and a torino cobra are true american muscle cars.

For my visual aid I was going to compare/contrast muscle cars of 60s/70s with their counterparts of today. 69 Camaro SS vs 1996 Z28 SS and a 69 GTO vs 2004 GTO, Shelby mustang vs Mustang GT. Good idea? Thanks again for the help.
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That sounds like a good concept. Slap some pictures and stats on a poster board and you'll have a nice visual aid.

Do you know anyone with a muscle car that would be willing to drive it to your school? Your teacher would probably let you give your speech outside by the car.
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I thought about that, because my dad's friend has a 70 chevelle. But he probably wouldn't drive it, my dad neither, and I know my dad wouldn't let me drive it. He'd be afraid I'd wrap it around a telephone pole. As he says. It had a 396 factory, and he dropped in a mildly cammed 454. I'll just stick with the posterboard, even though the car would be alot cooler. Thanks again for all you guy's help. It's appreciated. Thanks. Dan
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