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Old 09-19-2010, 06:51 PM
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A must read for all painters. The EPA's HAP 6H rule (law) soon to be in full effect.

The time has come apon us that the EPA is now regulating the guns we can use, how we use them, where we use them and what we can use them on. I thought i would share this with everyone to keep you guys out of trouble when the law comes into full effect. In short if you are getting paid to paint, or paint more than automobiles per year, you are going to be placed under the 6h rule.

My teacher brought this to my attention a few weeks back. He also said he knows a few body guys that have already been slapped with a 500$ fine for just owning a siphon feed gun. Im not here to fear monger, im just here to save you guys some hassle and some hard earned cash when the epa comes knockin on the door.

Just a heads up, if you get all your training done before this goes into full effect, you will soon be one of the most employable painters around. Most shops havent even been notified of these new regulations yet.

The short version.
You must be trained and certified on your gun.
Your Gun MUST be HVLP (and marked HVLP) or compliant.
Your booth MUST have a 98% or higher efficency filter.
Your gun must be hand cleaned, cleaned in a gun wash, or rinsed with solvent without being sprayed.
You must keep records of almost everything in your shop for 5 years. IE gun training, Booth filter maintenance, Documents proving your gun is HVLP.

ive found the best short hand break down of this rule from this website

http://www.kpaonline.com/ehs/epa/6h-rule-summary.html

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You let me know when you see the EPA guys, I deal with them for other reasons and they are WAY TO LAZY to snoop around a shop soooooo unless they hire a bunch of young bucks to snoop or you cause a major disaster or polute Dick and Janes well I don't see much too worry about.

I heard this stuff when they started pulling lead out of alot of products... they're gonna come around and check, BS they never checked for jack.

If we all followed every EPA/IRS/DOT/DMV/EMS law to the letter, NO ONE would have ANYWHERE to take their cars and we'd be working at Tastee Freeze or some crap.

NOT DOUBTING YOUR INFO but, don't see much enforcement for a LOOONG TIME
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NOT DOUBTING YOUR INFO but, don't see much enforcement for a LOOONG TIME

Move to California.
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Around here they are already handing out fines. I only push about 1 car a month, because they are all restos. I tried to get a waiver due to the fact that I'm a very low volume shop, and I dont have the cash flow for the equipment they want to see, but they said no. So I'll be shutting down soon, and hope like hell I can find a job doing something.
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Move to California.
Yep, some how they FIND the money. Back when the clean air act was signed (what was that, about 1990?) they figured they could hire a new agent with every shop they busted and fined.

Yep, they were out there in droves! As a paint rep in the nineties I dealt with them all the time. Printing out lists of product they had ordered from the store, stuff like that. They looked over stuff VERY close.

Just do what's right and move on. THAT is what a businessman does. You just need to do what you need to do, or close because it costs too much, one or the other.

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We did this in California 5 years ago..

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not a problem and a good thing if you want to be in the autubody and paint game without it killing you
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We did this in California 5 years ago..

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not a problem and a good thing if you want to be in the autubody and paint game without it killing you
Yep, good old VOC log, that is one thing you need to do. It's life in the big city.

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And they wonder why jobs are leaving the country faster than the speed of light and unemployment is through the roof, ..Its because small and medium business is being killed off.
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Compared to some of the things that were proposed during the rule making process this rule or "6H" as most call it now is relatively easy to comply with.

Many industry lobbyist tried their best to include a rule requiring anyone purchasing auto refinish paint to have a license. Of course, the way it was orginally written, you could not realistically afford or get a license unless you were a shop with decent volume which would have ended hobby painting. Fortunately, that part of the rule was removed during the development process.

My point is that while we may not like big brother getting involved in our business, it could have been much worse.

Some states are now considering enacting a license requirement for purchasing auto paint. I believe I read the other day that New York state was trying to get a bill through for this. You guys in New York that like to hobby paint need to call your representatives and make sure your voice is heard!
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