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Old 02-18-2005, 07:21 AM
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Mustang II - ebay parts?

Hello, new on the board so try and bear with me.
I want to fit a M-II based front suspension on a custom tube frame car I'm building. A quick look on ebay revealed ~ 50 ads for dropped spindles, and a few for tubular A-Arms. Anyone have any experiences going this way for a few of the parts? The deals seem good, but having been burned before by what "looks" like a good deal I'm a bit more wary these days. Sure beats the Heidts prices, but if the quality is questionable I'll dig a little deeper in the pockets for name brand hardware.
Also hoping to find out more detailed info on the OEM M-II suspension geometry and dimensions. Mine will be a full custom set-up so getting a kit isn't going to cut it. I'll be piecing it together and I need to determine and model suspension pick-up points, roll center, etc.
Appreciate any advice or info you guys could share.
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Old 02-18-2005, 09:28 AM
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I would recommend that you buy from a reputable manufacturer or distributor. Heidt's is one of the leading manufacturers and their product are distributed by a number of dealers like Yogi's, Speedway, Jeg's and Summit.

The tubular A arms are the way you want to go, it is the latest technology. Don't even consider the suspensions that use Mustang II stamped A arms with strut rods, that is way out of date. Be very wary of Ebay

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Thanks for the reply Vince. Kind'a figured as much - but seeing how Speedway as well as a number of other large/reputable shops sell lesser expensive versions of the spindles - thought there might be some coins to save there. Looks like a very similar product that's shown on the various ebay vendors. Sometimes you pay extra just for a big name.....
I'm looking at using the Heidts lower tubular A-Arm, but I want an adjustable upper arm so might go with the ChassisWorks arm for that one. Coil-over shocks will be used and probably dropped spindles since they look to basically center the axle between the arms.
Eyeballing the Heidts kits, it looks like this places the lower arm ~ 5.5" below the axle CL - near even with the diameter of an 11" disc. Upper arm looks to be a little less than this - maybe 4.5"?

Any idea how the 5/8" shorter arms work? These used with the standard MII rack (and geometry)? with shorter tie rod ends?
I'm working with a 54.5" hub to hub dimension - a little shorter than Heidts "standard" 60" width - which doesn't exactly jive with the the OEM MII 56.6" "track" width. A little confusing!
Jeff
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Do a search on this topic. It has been one of the most thoroughly discussed ones on the board. Just be careful when eliminating the strut rod on MII suspensions. True they are ugly but they tend to keep you alive too! DO NOT copy the Heidt's "economy" X-member design. It is fatally flawed. I would have no problem buying anything that Speedway sells. I have the greatest confidence in the quality of their stuff.
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Checkout rodparts warehouse. I was shocked at the price of their MII tubular control arms, but a friend of mine ordered a MII kit with air bags from them and man it is really nice. So I went a head and ordered the tubular controls arms and I'm happy with them. They advertise in street rodder magazine. Send me a private message if you want their number I don't know it its okay to post stuff like that on this board. I don't want to break any board rules.
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Willys - I've searched and read the archives 'till I can't see anymore! Well, getting old enough that I can't see that well anyway...
There's a lot of info there - but I really haven't found any solid numbers on the standard old MII geometry. I've seen caster numbers bounced around from 2-15 degrees (sheesh!). I guess the $6M question is: Just what exactly is the center to center distance of the upper and lower A-arm pivots? I want to model the thing on paper first, before I start buying parts. BTW, the Speedway lower A-arms look pretty good, one of my a-list choices - except they come with rubber bonded bushings. I'd like to run somethhing a bit more solid like urethane or nylon. Something else to deal with.....

Kabwe - I'll have a look at the rodparts warehouse ad in the mag. I think they were one of the ebay sellers! Hmmm.....
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I bought a new set of tubular uppers and lowers (Airbag) off of Ebay for $420 plus $20 freight. They are powder coated, have ball joints and poly bushings. The company is Spartan Rodworks in Wisconsin. I highly recommend them, very nice product and even better service.
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Hey Trim-man - mind measuring the center to center lengths of your arms? I take it these are for a standard MII cross member and geometry? PM me if you want.
And thanks for the tip, I'll check out Spartan Rodworks too.
Jeff
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