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Mustang II rack question

I am building my tube chassised, V8 powered, Mustang II front suspension Volkswagen Squareback body, hot rod. I have a question on the steering rack (being this is my first project like this, I have many questions). How do I get the rack in the straight ahead position? That is, on a VW steering box setup, there was a mark on the pitman arm and on the steering box you would line up, but on a rack, I am unsure. How are the steering stops figured? Any advice is greatly appreciated.

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I would check with a shop that builds chassis for a living. You could check with Rob at NO Limit Engineering in Riverside, CA. He is very knowledgeable about suspensions and a nice guy. He can probably point you in the right direction.
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I would check with a shop that builds chassis for a living. You could check with Rob at NO Limit Engineering in Riverside, CA. He is very knowledgeable about suspensions and a nice guy. He can probably point you in the right direction.
Thanks. Do you know if he has a web site / email address?
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You can just look up No Limit Engineering on your computer and get his web site.
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If I understand you right, you're simply trying to determine where center of the travel is for the rack. I'd just go lock to lock, count the turns, divide by two and back up that many turns from one stop or the other. That should put the rack in the center.
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If I understand you right, you're simply trying to determine where center of the travel is for the rack. I'd just go lock to lock, count the turns, divide by two and back up that many turns from one stop or the other. That should put the rack in the center.
Thanks. I'll give that a try. Another dumb question. How is the steering stops figured out? That is lock to lock.
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More questions. On my project, the best I can figure is that my car will be around the 2500 pound range. Power or manual steering? Same with brakes. I have disc on the front and drum on the rear. Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated. By the way, my wife will also be driving this, just a teeny bit.
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I'd go with manual steering, and manual brakes. That's too light a car to have power anything.
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I'd go with manual steering, and manual brakes. That's too light a car to have power anything.
So, you think it would be OK, not too much pressure exerted, for "wifey" to drive a time or two with no power steering or brakes?
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Hard to say, since I don't know your wife/how strong she is. But power steering on a light car like that, assuming a typical 60/40% front/rear weight bias and a fairly neutral scrub radius will give you no road feel/feedback. Makes for a weird driving experience, like your on ice. I tend to like some road feedback in the steering wheel. I had power steering in my '55 truck and it was much too easy to steer. Same for the brakes. A properly built and set up manual brake system will work great on such a lightweight vehicle. I have manual F100 drums on my '29 Ford hotrod and it'll put you through the windshield if you stomp on it. You don't need power brakes on such a light vehicle. Just my $0.02 though. If wifey weighs 75 pounds soaking wet, you might want to consider power brakes/steering.
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rack stops

I think they sell stops for 5.0 Mustangs for using bigger tires to keep from rubbing the chassis when racing. they should work on the M II.
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try these ?

Ford Motorcraft Steering Rack Limiters (79-04 All) at AmericanMuscle.com - Discontinued

they might work.
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Hard to say, since I don't know your wife/how strong she is. But power steering on a light car like that, assuming a typical 60/40% front/rear weight bias and a fairly neutral scrub radius will give you no road feel/feedback. Makes for a weird driving experience, like your on ice. I tend to like some road feedback in the steering wheel. I had power steering in my '55 truck and it was much too easy to steer. Same for the brakes. A properly built and set up manual brake system will work great on such a lightweight vehicle. I have manual F100 drums on my '29 Ford hotrod and it'll put you through the windshield if you stomp on it. You don't need power brakes on such a light vehicle. Just my $0.02 though. If wifey weighs 75 pounds soaking wet, you might want to consider power brakes/steering.
Well your, and other posters comments, are worth a lot to me. As I have stated, this is a new type project I am doing and I need all the help I can get. Many rodders have told me that with power steering, it would be a squirrelly ride. As far as power brakes go, as long as it stops without extreme effort, then I will go with manual brakes. As far as my wife driving it, that will be very limited, as even now, I drive everywhere with her as a passenger. For example, this evening at supper, she said how far is it a drive to our youngest son, daughter in law and 3 grandkids house in Aubrey (Dallas) Texas.(You see, we are driving down there Thursday from here in Ballwin(St.Louis) MO.I asked her why and she asked if I could drive the distance by myself. I said I always do. She then said last year, when we drove to San Diego, she said she helped me drive. I said I forgot about that. Yep, she drove 1-1/2hours of that complete trip. Don't know why she is not talking to me right now. Women.
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