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Old 01-02-2009, 10:00 PM
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By the way, if you are creative you can make a really loud system very quiet when you are OFF the throttle, if you are creative. If you are interested how, PM me.
That is soo true! That's how my set-up is. I've got a 84' Cutlass with a Chevy 383. I love the sound of the SRT-8 Chargers, 300C's & Cherokee's. So thats the sound I was aiming for. Quiet at idle but it really opens up when you get in it. I got headers, Magnaflow mufflers & no cats. My face lit up like a kid @ Christmas the 1st time I let a friend drive it & I heard it coming & as he drove past me! Whao boy!!

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If you want mustang sound... the FIRST thing you want to do is get
a 4-7 Swap cam, Definatly run an X pipe..... Youre most of the way there at that point. + Chambered mufflers.....=

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That sounds great to me!
Thx......
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Well here is my setup. Might be sorta what your after. Its a 2v 4.6L (big bored to a 304ci 5.0L), worked heads, 262 comp cams, Eaton SC.

JBA shorty's, true dual 2.5'' headers back, H pipe, two Flowmaster Super 40's, 2 18'' glass packs after flowmasters, no cats:

http://media.putfile.com/AWDROCKS-H-Pipe-88

Since then im now running an X pipe. Made the sound crisper and more "exotic".
Thats really interesting to me. Is there any under pics of it??
Makes me really want to try that on my 355 s10, with a comp xe268
vortec motor.... But just not sure if it would sound much better
than straight super 44's....
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Thats really interesting to me. Is there any under pics of it??
Makes me really want to try that on my 355 s10, with a comp xe268
vortec motor.... But just not sure if it would sound much better
than straight super 44's....
Yes sir! Here you go:

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Well here is my setup. Might be sorta what your after. Its a 2v 4.6L (big bored to a 304ci 5.0L), worked heads, 262 comp cams, Eaton SC.

JBA shorty's, true dual 2.5'' headers back, H pipe, two Flowmaster Super 40's, 2 18'' glass packs after flowmasters, no cats:

http://media.putfile.com/AWDROCKS-H-Pipe-88

Since then im now running an X pipe. Made the sound crisper and more "exotic".

Wow,sounds like Angus Young!
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If you want mustang sound... the FIRST thing you want to do is get
a 4-7 Swap cam, Definatly run an X pipe..... Youre most of the way there at that point. + Chambered mufflers.....=
ALL dual plane crankshaft V8s, regardless of firing order,
each bank has exhaust pulses of 90-180-270-180-back to 90. (Draw it out and look at it.)

X pipes blend the pressure pulses and each exhaust pipe sounds like 8, sort of, almost like a Y pipe into a single exhaust.
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I love the sound of the SRT-8 Chargers, 300C's & Cherokee's. So thats the sound I was aiming for.
All the OEMs have worked extensively to get the factory sound "right".

Try the new HEMI with the Magnaflow cat back system.
We have installed several of them. Much better sound than the factory without harshness. But $$$.
Also installed a couple Corvette Magnaflow systems.
Anybody want to buy several factory stock systems? lol

I prefer the Magnaflow sound on everything, and they are straight through mufflers, no baffles, or delta Vs.
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evryone i know

loves the sound of my stang, i manufactured and installed my own system, twin pipes with an equaliser up front and 2 cooper mufflers(bullets in ur lingo) around 20 inch from memory and oval as opposed to round.Rumble makes my hairs stand up,and there aint many of them left, hehe
russ
ps i used to instal exhaust systems for a job.
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ALL dual plane crankshaft V8s, regardless of firing order,
each bank has exhaust pulses of 90-180-270-180-back to 90. (Draw it out and look at it.)

X pipes blend the pressure pulses and each exhaust pipe sounds like 8, sort of, almost like a Y pipe into a single exhaust.

Same motor and exhaust just one with 4-7 swap cam.
They will sound different. Want to sound like a ford
why not start with the firing order. Not to mention
like maybe a 5hp gain with the swap cam

Oh well just one of those things where its gonna be
a different opinion sometimes.
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It'll never sound like a Ford. Thank God! You cannot take two different engines and expect them to sound the same. Even if you have the same short block, cam, intake, headers, and exhaust system even a different set of heads will affect the sound. Don't believe me? Talk to a guy that has swapped Vortec's inplace of old swirl port heads. Big difference!

If you really need that exact sound then you're going to need to buy that car. Even exhaust pipe lengths affect the sound so putting a Corvette engine in a s10 will not leave the truck sounding exactly like a corvette.

I know a lot of people are all show and no go, and that's fine if that's your thing but you have to alteast partially understand that exhaust sound is not like paint- you can't just spray a Ford sound on like you can with paint.

It'll never be a perfect match. Nor should it. Appreciate each invidual sound for what it is. It doesn't matter if its a Briggs 5hp, a CAT D9, or a chevy 305... well maybe not a 305... still appreciate each machine for what it is.
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Same motor and exhaust just one with 4-7 swap cam.
They will sound different. Want to sound like a ford
why not start with the firing order. Not to mention
like maybe a 5hp gain with the swap cam

Oh well just one of those things where its gonna be
a different opinion sometimes.
First AP72 you are correct

Darkness,
You are missing my point.
the 4-7 swap does not alter the pulse pattern coming from each bank of cylinders.
the 4-7 swap does not make a Chevy firing order (ignore numbering) into the same pattern as any Ford. It takes swapping 4 cylinders.

ALL dual plane crankshaft V8s have the same pulse pattern on each bank..
90-180-270-180- back to 90...... draw it out for yourself.

If you look carefully, you will see that a small block Chevy and a small block Ford have the identical firing orders and plug wire routing
AS YOU LOOK AT THE ENGINE. only the distributors rotate the opposite directions.

New Chevies, some Fords have different firing orders but the pulse pattern out of each bank is still the same.

Engines sound different due to:

compression ratio
cam timing (opening exhaust valve lets the pressure out, like a cork from a bottle)
exhaust manifold/header type

beyond that they are all similar except for exhaust system configuration.

I have seen more than a few "experts" say.. "that is a Chevy" etc. when it was NOT.

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While the firing order will not make a large difference it will still make a difference, not because the exhaust pulses are the same or sifferent but because it affects the air and fuel distribution. It all works together.
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