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Old 03-26-2006, 12:30 AM
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my BRAND NEW 32

hi my name is kyle tunnell i live in napa california and i am "Aquiring" a 1932 full fendered cabriolet its all original...(with 2 extra sets of original fenders) but its also all in parts... i am probably going to buy a "Total Cost Involved" (tci) chassis -IFS for sure ...i know i need an engine (chevy 350 will do), tranny, wheels and tires, drive shaft, and steering colomn, but i dont know where to go from there... haha, let me know what i should do

P.S. anyone have an approximate idea of how much this may cost me ..?


p.s.s. i AM only 16.......
...thanks alot....
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hi my name is kyle tunnell i live in napa california and i am "Aquiring" a 1932 full fendered cabriolet its all original...(with 2 extra sets of original fenders) but its also all in parts... i am probably going to buy a "Total Cost Involved" (tci) chassis -IFS for sure ...i know i need an engine (chevy 350 will do), tranny, wheels and tires, drive shaft, and steering colomn, but i dont know where to go from there... haha, let me know what i should do

P.S. anyone have an approximate idea of how much this may cost me ..?
You are one lucky kid. You are "aquiring" something that many adults can only dream of owning.

It is impossible to say how much a build will cost until you know exactly what you will buy, what you will do yourself as labor, and what you will have other people do. Building a car involves knowledge from more than a few professions and in some cases specialized tools and equipment. Look around in magazines and go to the shows. (there is one in Pleasanton Ca.this weekend, you should go) Get an idea of what you want your car to be when it is done. Then start looking for the pieces. TCI is a good chassis builder, but there are others. Get your shopping list then start pricing. Find out which processes you can do yourself. You have the opportunity to learn as you go. The more you do yourself, the less money you will spend on labor and the greater satisfaction you will get from the car when it is done.

I will say this though, do not attempt to do things that might compromise the safety of your car if you are unfamiliar with the process. Welding suspension parts is something that would be best left to a pro, unless you have someone to make sure you are doing it right. Maybe someone close to you is a car builder or fabricator, in that case you have a good teacher.

Look around in this forum, there are many postings here that can give you an idea of the steps required to build your car. There are some threads at the top of each forum that have some good info on getting organized, doing searches, posting guidelines, etc. Do searches for the subject matter that you are inquiring about. If you see a ramjet crate motor at a show and need to know what the folks here think of it, Type "ramjet cratemotor" in the search box. If you have questions regarding any system or part of a system, then post in the appropriate forum and there are many people here with thousands of years of combined experience who will try to help you. You have come to the best hotrod board on the net. Pay attention and you can learn alot. There are also a few books out on the subject of building a car. Look up tex smith publications, there are several books out by him and his cohorts that are pretty informative. Hope this helps, mikey
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If you have some one that is buying this "basket case" for you, then just have them deposit $100,000 in a checking account in your name with banker controls such that checks are only good to a supplied list of auto parts/paint/body/electrical/mechanical/upholstery vendors and you may drive this jewel some day. If not, then keep dreaming.

This hobby is for the person that has the discipline to work and learn, sacrifice a social life for hours of solitude in the shop, scrimp and save for the next part, mechanical skills, artistic talents, vision, stubborness, insatiable desire to research and learn about the hobby. At 16 years, the arena is just starting to appear in front of you so plunge in.


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Don't let them scare you. This car could be built for 10gs or less with a little careful scrounging and trading. There are thousands of good running 350/350 combos out there that can be had for a song. You don't have to have Heidts front and rears or 2000 a copy wheels or 400 apiece tires. Thw 32 front is readily adaptable to hydraulic brakes and drum/ drum brakes are fine. In short,you can build a decent driver fairly cheaply. It may not be picture perfect show car, but it will be a safe reliable driver that will have a high satisfaction ratio and you will have learned some valuable skills. I have a feeling that driving this sweetheart is more important to you than wiping fingerprints off it. Have a plan of attack, but keep it simple and follow it.
Throwing money at someone to build their version of my dream car really leaves me flat. I do nearly everything myself. Things I don't have the equipment for I find someone to teach me. A little grease is sometimes necessary for the machinery to get it going, but in the end you're the winner with new friends , new skills, satisfaction of a job well done and possibly a lifetime job that you do because you love it rather than because it feeds you I'll shut up now.
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If this is TRUE........

At 16.......most kids do not want a 70 plus year old Ford...in pieces........
A 32 Cabriolet is a rare car...even in the 50's and 60's much less now.

A TCI chassis with the IFS is over 8 grand...a lot of Fun Stamps for a LOT of folks...much less a 16 year old.



There is over 6 thousand dollars in this chassis and I started with a decent original 32 frame....

SHOW me a photo of the Cabriolet so we will know better what you need.....and will be able to give better advice.....

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[QUOTE=61bone]Don't let them scare you. QUOTE]

I, for one, was not trying to scare him.

I wrote a few guidelines that I felt would help him make better decisions regarding the direction he said he wanted to go. My emphasis was on his aquisition of knowledge, and it's application to achieve his dream AND to find the cost of that dream. I was not trying to change his vision. He can do that himself.
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Nor am I trying to scare him. Though I am old, my memory of dreaming of a street rod is vivid. No money, no job that paid cash and when there was money, it all went to an education. But I was able to work a life time and produce a couple of street rods along the way. The first one took $4300 and change, but I never counted the mega dollars I invested in the tools that let me do my own work, not the endless pennies spent on simple things like nuts, bolts, washers, screws, wiring hard ware, welder, torches, grinders, air compressor, sand blaster, paint guns, resperiators, solvents, grease, manuals etc, etc, etc. I dare say at todays prices, $20,000 would be stretched to "tool up" to begin a street rod project. Then you need a shop to work in. The minute you start farming out any thing, the cash register spins faster than most of us can supply it.

My last two vehicles you see in my avatar represents over $40,000 worth of parts and materials. I had the tools, shop and years of parts and pieces that I could pull off the shelf instead of running to the parts houses. I bought all the paint and body work supplies for both vehicles and did everthing on the coupe except spray the final base and clear. I did everthing on the PU except for the upholstery. I owned both the vehicles when I started the projects so their cost were not included in the $40,000. And by the way, many trips to pull parts and pieces from the salvage yards were made and there is no high dollar billet glitter in either vehicle other than a set of cast aluminum valve covers and a coolant overflow tank.

We did my buds 66 Mustang convertible that was a basket case and this was more of a restoration than a street rod. We did do the Granada front disc brake conversion and added Vintage Air and an AM/FM/CD unit. We did paint, top and interior as well as all the body and mechanical work. My bud got by with just under $20,000, which included the cost of the basket case.

Maybe our new 16 year old "Lucky Dog" street rod wanna be would post pictures of the basket case and list all the parts and pieces he is missing so we could have a HR.com project of posting what we think it cost us to make it into an "average" crusing street rod: not a quarter mile killer not a trailer queen conversation piece.

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thanks for alll the support

thank you guys for all the support and i am trying to form a "plan of attack"
my MAJOR advantage ...is that my chassis is getting bought for me ... i believe it was estmated at 9,500 or so .... so that is starting me off with a large portion of what needs to be done.... my grandfather is supplying me with the car itself and with the chassis .. and himself owns another 32 five window.. my girlfriends grandmother owns a multitude of cars and rrunns the "skip long car memorial" ... the car IS all original and in awesome shape... its all been in a garage for 40 years... i need to get the body and start working on it(sanding) i like the idea of black primer with primer grey scallops ...this car will be a DRIVER
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