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Old 03-23-2005, 09:39 AM
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Chris, Way to go for it. Candies can be tricky even for some pros.Your first coat looked to light,use even medium wet coats without to much overlapping.What air pressure were you using, that kind of gun pattern is usually caused from to much pressure or opening the fan to far for the air-cap size.Nice job.






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Old 03-23-2005, 10:24 AM
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Man I think you know your stuff man. I was reading the HoK website tech info and they said use 50-60 psi. I think the guns max was 40 but I thought I would go by what they said on the web-page..
I ended up lowering it later on in the kandy process. I had my fan open all the way. The 1st 2 coats were used with that gun. I busted out my old gun with the old adjustments and it started spraying out right.

I love tips like this "Your first coat looked to light,use even medium wet coats without to much overlapping"

Im gonna give Kandies another try soon and try that out. Im gonna be getting a better paint gun next time also.


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Chris, 50-60 psi doesn't mean anything with out knowing the gun being used. Most gravity feed HVLP guns use half of that with same results. If your serious about painting,and it sounds like you are then a good paint gun should be your next purchase. Me and most pros I know use SATAS, and one gun doesn't usually do everything great. I use HVLPs for basecoat and regular pressure guns for clearing. I wrote this earlier. http://hotrodders.com/forums/showthread.php?t=60159

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Old 03-23-2005, 03:28 PM
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At 17 I was doing body work as an apprentice under 2 instructors from a local college and only did one paint job which I didn't do all of,so body work is what I can do but from all this info here I will paint my bucket myself.I start the body prep this weekend and it will take a but load of time to get it ready to paint and hopefully this summer it will be shiny at least.
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Wow Chris! I'm no expert but that looks awfully good to me! Hard to believe it's your first Kandy job!
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O yah

I forgot to post the pics in hotrodders.com

I got some more pictures too tho.


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Iv tried it with 1500 but it seemed like the clear would gum up after a while but I never tried it with 800, 1000, and then 1500.

Next time I paint a car I will give it a try for sure though. Thanks

So far the car is looking good. The car really needs to sit out in the sun for a good month before I wet-sand and buff because this clear is so fresh anything that touches it even a soft polishing cloth scratches it...


2 days of curing out in the sun with 8 coats aint cuttin it.


The owner needed it for a car show this weekend so we let him take it.













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It looks wet but coulda looked 30 times better. Were gonna let it cure real good though.
We got most of the haze out of it that you see in these pictures but we tried to wax it and had to scrub the hell out of the wax with a polishing cloth and it scratched up the paint really bad. I love the kandy look though.
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Chris,Thats 8 coats total paint and not just clear right? Waxing fresh paint before its cured isn't a good ideal,30 days after painting is the norm.After sanding down to 1500 you might want to try using 3M 3000 grit wet DA pads, they make buffing a whole lot easier.




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I know about waxing fresh paint but I haven't really had any problems with the paint messing up from doing it. I understand what you are saying though. I ain't gonna be using it on fresh paint anymore though because anything other then a buffer on fresh clear seems to put scratches on it.

We did use 8 coats of clear. 5 for the candy that had a full day to cure and 3 light coats for the final finish.

We told the owner that it needs to sit for about a month before we even color-sand and buff it but he didn't care.

We did a different car the same way with no problems yet.


I know I had problems before using that many coats of clear at once but not with allot of time to flash in-between coats . I let the clear hand-slick like the tech sheets say for the clear I use.

P8nter is there something wrong with 8 coats of clear ? Please tell me

Wow I never really heard about 3000 grit sandpaper. Ill have to give it a try.


Crazy Larry do you have a shop or something out there? Before I ever go there in the future ill give you a pm

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When doing candy jobs I mostly lay down 3 coats of clear after the candy, then wait a day, then color sand with 600, and lay down 2 more wet coats of clear befor cutting and buffing.

I only wait about 3 days befor cutting and buffing, I found that it's easer if you don't wait too long

The problem with having too much clear (build) is that you will have a higher chance of chipping.


By the way..........Looks realy good
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Chris,

Very nice work. And just think, that's the last time it will be the first time for you doing a candy job. From here on YOU'RE the seasoned veteran. It's so impressive you've got me thinking about shooting a real paint job on my rat project rather than just flat black. (You don't want to move to northern Wisconsin for about a month to do it do you?)

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Chris, Putting that much material on can lead to problems, trapping solvents is the biggest. If applied to fast or heavy without enough time to flash properly solvents get get trapped with no place to escape, this can cause bubbles, hazing, or to delaminate (peel off) and as myfamiliacc said ,any chips are going to be huge. Three coats of any quality clear should give you enough build to sand and apply one or two more for appearance. You should always try to apply just enough to get the job done. Doing a job like this takes balls, you did good.
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Understood p8nter

HAHA cboy Maybe I aughta go on tour painting peoples cars around the world? Thats a good idear



Thanks guys,
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