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Old 05-12-2011, 12:50 AM
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went with the critter 118 siphon gun. Looks like the easiest to keep clean. Now I will locate some good adhesive.......Steve
This is not like painting, you don't need to worry about keeping the the gun clean, the glue and air are mixed at the end of the nozzle. You can leave either of the spray guns filled their respective glue for long periods of time without using them, and they will still work fine.

The Critter gun will not shoot Top and Trim adhesive, it's too thick. It will only shoot foam to foam glue which is thinner. You can do everything in a car interior with Top and Trim adhesive, but you can't do everything with foam to foam glue. At some point you will need a separate gun to shoot Top and Trim adhesive also.
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I am giving consideration to creating the top cushion pieces by pinning and pulling the vynil tight and marking from the old welting, as described in the auto upholstery handbook. I was gonna try this instead of cutting apart the old seat cover and making individual pieces. It seems to me that it is much easier to do this before gluing the polyfoam but the pics in the book show the foam already in place. I am doing this soley for experience. does anybody have any experience with this technique? I read that on older seats like I have the material may have shrunk and this can produce a more accurate cover.
That is a technique used on a seat cover that doesn't use listings. That may have been good advice when seat covers were made of materials with more cotton content which could shrink, but more modern fabrics like the fabric on your seats are 100% synthetic, which doesn't shrink. As a beginner looking for experience, it makes more sense for you to copy what was there that already fit. If you try to do this by guess and by golly you will be disappointed with the results.
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thanx Dan, I will take your advice and make patterns by cutting up the old cover. I bought the critter gun for th reason that my wife occasioanally needs a peice of furniture sprayed with stain and the mason jar setup looks easy enough to keep a lid on and have 2 or 3 different jars ready to spray. That being said I plan on getting a cheap harbor freight gun for some top and trim adhesive. My big problem with the top and trim adhesive is the fact that I would like to get the Dap weldwood cement and nobody will ship it to San Diego. Thanx in advance.....Steve
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used my new critter gun and some red glue. Does this look about right for the glue coverage? You are right using colored glue makes it easy to see where you have been
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also, is this tyvar? Its what gm used for the listings and such. Your right, that is some tough stuff
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used my new critter gun and some red glue. Does this look about right for the glue coverage? You are right using colored glue makes it easy to see where you have been
If you're gluing the vinyl to sew foam, that's all you need. If you're gluing foam to foam you need a little more complete coverage.
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also, is this tyvar? Its what gm used for the listings and such. Your right, that is some tough stuff
Typar. Yes, that's the stuff.
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thanx Dan. Kinda late in your part of the country
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Got the seatbases on the front seat pretty well done. I had to cheat a little putting the listings on. I sewed thm on after I finished the top cushion. It was to much for me to sew them on at the same time I was sewing the top cushion together. I ended up with a little fabric clot where the listng seam intercepts the cushion to facing seam and a little bit of a jagged edge in the corner. All in all I feel pretty good about it
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You did a good job. Practice, practice, practice!
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...........I had to cheat a little putting the listings on. I sewed thm on after I finished the top cushion.............
It's perfectly all right to sew them on at the end of the process, as long as they're there. Next time, sew the listings onto the insert first using a 1/4" seam. Then sew all the top pieces together and the listings will stay in place as you sew the rest of the seat top.
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thanx guys. I will be starting the seatbacks next week. Each project i learn something new.
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I removed the driver side seat cover and found a bit of damage to the underlying foam. Short of refoaming would this be a good place for a foam patch. It is maybe 1/4 in. rubbed off. Maybe I should just leave it alone
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Another area I am struggling with is topstitching the cushion to the facing. Is it permissable to lightly glue the selvadge to the facing before stitching. I have not overlapped or ran over the initial seam yet but the stitiching is not real parallel to the original seam.........Steve
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