[cutthroatkid]

Well when I go to crank the engine over it makes a dragging noise like waaah wa waaaaah wahhh etc etc then it (may start) well I looked@the battery cable &it was all burnt up where it connects to the starter,so I replaced that,I have a new battery&new alternator.anything else you guys can think of?or does it just sound like the starter?

[poncho62]

If it is a grinding type noise, I would say that your Bendix (starter drive) is bad........Thats the little gear on the end of the starter.

[cutthroatkid]

&if I let it set for a few hours sometimes it will start right up...but I can start it then kill it&try again&I will get that dragging again I thought maybe it was just getting hot but can't that quick right?never had this problem before

[poncho62]

If you mean that it will barely turn the engine over when its hot....It is likely what is called heat soak.....the starter gets too hot....You need a heat shield to dissipate that heat......

Could also be that your starter is going bad....and is weak.

[eloc431962]

You can buy a wrap for your starter also. I put a mini high torque on mine and i am still thinking about a shield or a wrap. Even though it's doing pretty good now as far as starting knock on wood. And poncho is right starter could be going out also. Cole

[302 Z28]

Have your starter tested to see if it's drawing too much current. If it's OK than look to insufficiently sized cables, bad connections, or insufficient grounding.

[freecontact]

It sounds like someone cooked the motor and a head or heads are gone.

If your battery goes dead quicker and quicker even after a run.Sorry mate but your heads are fried!You need a rebuild.

Rings bearings,cam grind,cam bearings lifters,heads planed valve grind,gasket set,water pump(probably the culprit),rebuilt oil pump,Radiator checked,cleaned,recored?

Probably you could only use the starter,distributor and manifold/carb without any machining or rebuilding of them.

Get a new one or a rebuild?

[cutthroatkid]

Nope the battery stays charged the heads,distrubutor,intake is all new just had the engine built awhile back but I figured out what it is its the starter its pulling too much.my grandpas buddy&my dad looked@it but thanx

[scrot]

Sounds like the starter is just too hot as mentioned. I have the same problem in the past few weeks of the August heat. In my case, I turn the ignition key and I get nothing. Not a sound.

When it does this, dump some ice or cold water on the starter and see if it helps. Let us know what happens.

[rtyauch301]

my catalina does that i had cooling problems it was heat soak replace that starter

[freecontact]

You need a heavy duty torque thruster(starter) then or something? Go hard !

The dragging is probably just the rings scraping up the cylinders leaving channels for the water to run down from the heads. That's cool!
Water cooled chambers are the way!

Oh and the crank gouging the mains bearings some improvised oil channels. That's normal! Oil lubricates!

Not to mention the con rod big end bearings grinding on the out of round con rod crank pins.That's cool! They should soon sync!

Just because you saved on the blueprinting and balancing job that the shot peening expert said you have to have. Doesn't mean a thing!

Hot rodding man....hot rodding !

[cutthroatkid]

My grandfather put that engine togather he owned a hot rod shop&had like 27 cars when he passes away he knew his stuff&didn't cut no corners

[62Parisienne]

I think that your starter is just getting ready to totally fail.
Take it out and test it, replace it with either a rebuilt from a
good local shop (warranty). Or put in a new starter. This is a good
time to switch to a high torque mini starter. At the same time put in
a new wire to the starter.

Vic

[Kevin45]

Sounds to me by the way you explain in your first posting that the engine may be out of time. When you go to start it, it is putting too much of a strain on the starter and pulling current out of the battery. After it stalls the battery has not recovered enough to let it fire again. Get it running and check your timing. Or when trying to crank it, have one of your buddies or you while they crank move the distributor a hair one way or another to see if it cranks and fires easier.

[1Bad406sbc]

Originally Posted by cutthroatkid

Well when I go to crank the engine over it makes a dragging noise like waaah wa waaaaah wahhh etc etc then it (may start) well I looked@the battery cable &it was all burnt up where it connects to the starter,so I replaced that,I have a new battery&new alternator.anything else you guys can think of?or does it just sound like the starter?

Sounds like a timing issue. Have you checked that to make sure it's where it should be?