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Old 12-24-2009, 10:45 AM
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nason 441-22 reducer

IS nason 441-22 reducer suitable for urethane clears? I was told that is was a urethane reducer. but I'm skeptical please help

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It is a slow enamel reducer.
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cjperotti is correct. It is an Acrylic Enamel reducer. 441-21 is the urethane ful-base reducer. I would not use the 441-20 in a urethane. You may end up with a nice gallon of clear cottage cheese.
Ive sprayed alot of the nason select clear 460-00, 497-00 and 498-00 and have never needed A reducer.
Nason clears mix 4:1 with The activator. I don't believe they even suggest a reducer for the Select-clear.
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Nason Select Clear 465-00 (High Solids Clear) Mixes 2 parts clear, 1 part clear, 20% reducer. According to the tech sheet you are suppose to use either 441-20, 441-21 or 441-22 to reduce. 441-21 is what I have in the shop right now its the medium temp reducer.

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thanks for the tips guys.. I have polyester urethane. sooo I'm not going to use it,but I also have some keystone urethane enamel clear I wonder if it would be compatable with it??
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thanks for the tips guys.. I have polyester urethane. sooo I'm not going to use it,but I also have some keystone urethane enamel clear I wonder if it would be compatable with it??

Is the reason you are asking about the nason reducer and the keystone reducer because of money issues or lack of the correct product?

Everyone's first response including mine will be to buy the correct reducer. And don't take the chance of a bad mixture.

But if you can't get the recommended reducer, Or you just don't want to spend anymore money. then my advice would be to mix a small test sample to spray and see how it turns out. That is the only way you will ever know for sure.
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thanks for the tips guys.. I have polyester urethane. sooo I'm not going to use it,but I also have some keystone urethane enamel clear I wonder if it would be compatable with it??
Now with most polyester primers, they say in the tech sheet, you can reduce with acetone or a quality urethane reducer. I have thinned Slicksand and Quicksand with Nason and Part store brand reducers with no problems.

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no the main reason I was asking is because I have a gallon of nason 441-22 reducer,and some mid temp urethane reducer.I also have a gallon of keystone urethane enamel l clear and a gallon of kustom shops clear 211 which I believe is polyester. since 441-22 is a enamel reducer would it be suitable for the urethane enamel....
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no the main reason I was asking is because I have a gallon of nason 441-22 reducer,and some mid temp urethane reducer.I also have a gallon of keystone urethane enamel l clear and a gallon of kustom shops clear 211 which I believe is polyester. since 441-22 is a enamel reducer would it be suitable for the urethane enamel....

Don't hold me to this, But I BELIEVE you can get a cross reference sheet from kustom shop, for their products. I sprayed kustom shop clear once, And I thought I remembered the data sheet having a cross reference for PPG products. I could be mistaken. The guys at TCPglobal are very nice people. If you call or email them Im sure they will give you a correct answer.
I bought a quart of their "Hotrod Flatz" red paint for an intake manifold and I had issues with it. I could not get it to be flat, every time I sprayed it, it would be satin gloss. Turned out being my fault for not shaking the paint long enough. The point of this is I emailed them and then called and talked to someone and they where very nice and helpful, they even recommended a few additives for the higher heat of the intake and fixed my problem. Good customer service.
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