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Old 08-14-2010, 10:45 AM
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need advice on heat warped roof.

I am looking at a car that had an engine fire. The damage is really not bad at all except for an 18 inch diameter dent in the roof caused by the heat.

Can this be repaired without patching or replacing the roof?

I figure this is a long shot.

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what kind of car is it? newer cars have thinner metal and would be a little tougher to fix, if it is caused by heat it depends on how hot the metal got, because you are going to have to shrink the streched metal in the center of the dent. you may be able to push the center of the dent up and then shrink it in the center enough to get it straight. It is hard to say without actually seeing how bad it is.
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what kind of car is it? newer cars have thinner metal and would be a little tougher to fix, if it is caused by heat it depends on how hot the metal got, because you are going to have to shrink the streched metal in the center of the dent. you may be able to push the center of the dent up and then shrink it in the center enough to get it straight. It is hard to say without actually seeing how bad it is.
The car is a 69 Chevelle.
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It really depends on how bad it is. If 18" of roof have paint burnt off, it is WAY more warped than that 18" that is a given.

Now, you say it had an engine fire, are you talking ROOF or are you talking about the HOOD, the part that is over the engine?
Because if you are talking hood, you probably wouldn't even think about fixing it, you bolt on a new hood. If you are talking about a car that had an engine fire and the ROOF of the car is damaged by heat, you have a LOT of other damage and I would think unless this car was very special (a big block four speed car or something like that) I would say it is probably best left for someone else to resurrect from the dead.

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It really depends on how bad it is. If 18" of roof have paint burnt off, it is WAY more warped than that 18" that is a given.

Now, you say it had an engine fire, are you talking ROOF or are you talking about the HOOD, the part that is over the engine?
Because if you are talking hood, you probably wouldn't even think about fixing it, you bolt on a new hood. If you are talking about a car that had an engine fire and the ROOF of the car is damaged by heat, you have a LOT of other damage and I would think unless this car was very special (a big block four speed car or something like that) I would say it is probably best left for someone else to resurrect from the dead.

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Yes, I meant the roof. The fire did spread into the passenger compartment. The dash is gone, but I can see under it, and it looks ok, but I am doubtful I will buy it. I was just checking.

Now, please tell me how this could be fixed without patching or replacing the hood. If it can't it can't.
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It's likely it can't, not without a lot of skills and proper tools. Warpage from fire is SEVERE and very hard to repair. I have to tell you, the dash is probably totally gone as well. With this type of heat metal distorts very easily and is VERY difficult to repair.

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Someone say resurrect a dead body??????? My ears just started ringing....
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imo i would stay away from it unless you are a metal guy or know a cheap metal guy (you get what you pay for). a roof skin is not that hard to install just an expensive part. i would worry about all the wiring and interior that is really expensive
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I have a little experience with burnt cars and they are VERY challenging. My 65 Buick Skylark had a very mild engine (more like carburetor) fire. I had to replace the hood and that was the only sheetmetal damage. But there was TONS of other stuff. When the metal starts getting warped, it can be VERY serious.


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I buy a lot of wrecks at salvage auctions ,fix them up for resale and as a rule of thumb Never buy a fire damaged car for repair just parts.nothing but trouble...
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Thanks everybody. I was leaning towards not buying the car, you just helped me decide to pass.
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its still worth something as a parts car.. just offer him half
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A 4 door parts car would have just about everything you need to do the job.
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I have a parts car for the Rambler I am building, it is VERY nice to have around! I find stuff over and over where I go to the other car and check it out. Yesterday I found that they have different motor and tranny mounts! Totally different with different crossmembers under the same motor and trans and the motor and trans will bolt right in, yet the motor mounts are totally different. I look thru the online catalogs and some are WRONG in what motor mounts go where!

It is nice having these parts cars!

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A 4 door parts car would have just about everything you need to do the job.
Well, EXCEPT for the correct roof panel. The 68-72 A-body 2dr roof panels are now available as repros. They are complete to the factory seams.
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