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Old 09-03-2002, 06:48 PM
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I have tried to find stuff on the net about alchool fueled motors. I know a little about them. There are different types of alchool, one is fairly easy to use the other is really hard. I am looking to build a car, with a small displacement motor. Around 1.6-1.8L to run on alchool. It will not be daily driven nor does it have to be street legal. I will drive it but only to LOCAL cruises and I will drag her on the strip. Any info or a point in the right direction will be very helpful. Another quickie. Does anyone have any exp with using propane on a diesel, it can be done same as juice but I have never done it personaly. I would like to maybe try that one as well, just for kicks.
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Old 09-03-2002, 08:53 PM
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Matty here are some links.

www.tsperformanceproducts.com/propane_faq.html

<a href="http://www.propane-generators.com/propane%20injection.htm]http://www.propane-generators.com/propane%20injection.htm[/URL]

BTW forget the other alcohols, methanol is the only one you can buy in bulk. Besides the wealth of experience running this fuel in racing makes it the natural choice.
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personally i would go with the alcohol motor, the octane rating of methanol equals arround 130 so you can run much higher compression ie 16:1 or massive turbo boost. like 30 psi on a 9:1 motor. methanol is less energy rich and since it contains oxygen the mixture is much richer than with gasoline, giveing you lousy milage but a coolrunning powerfull motor. you might have success running CNG, compressed natural gas (octane 160) as an alternative fuel for performance. bot i would contact Kinsler or Rons performance products and get an alcohol injector

bu the way i saw on hilborns homepage that they have a special on some injectors for some 4 cyl motorcycles, how about buying one of those and all you then hav eto do is fabricate a manifold..
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Here in the Gopher State there are over 60 gas stations that sell E85 (85% ethanol and 15% gasoline). My street-legal sprint car that is under construction will run on this fuel. The engine has 11 : 1 compression and I anticipate no detonation problems with this combination. I'm doing this because I enjoy tinkering with new ideas and methods. Also, in a VERY small way, I'm telling the Arabs to take their oil and drink (shove) it !
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