[R.sok]

I'm looking to respray my car a panel at a time *black* & was looking at the tcp ss urethane gloss black, do any of you have much experience with this paint or am I better off going with the ultra flow urethane bc/cc. I'm looking to have the paint hold up & look nice for 2-3 years maybe? I've had a previous car done at maaco when I was younger that was a single stage, for the first 4 months the paint looked amazing for a single stage, however it started to fade horribly. I have a gun, comrpessor just stuck on deciding which route to go

[swvalcon]

How rough is the body? If the car isn't real nice and you dont plan on doing a lot of body work I would go single stage.If paint is desent then I maybe would do base clear. Any good urathane single stage preped right should give you 5 yrs.If you had a maaco done years ago it was most likly a striaght enamel. I had slivers in that fade out in a year.

[Old Fool]

Good Ol' Maaco paint job, back in the day in these parts of the woods they were heating enamel on a hotplate so they didnt need to use reducer. Fast way to fail.

[deadbodyman]

I've had really good luck with Nason SS ,solid colors only, 5yrs easy ,10 if you take care of them...it sprays well too and its under 150.00 but whatever you use get a SS urathane for a newb its thr easiest to use and if you mess something up it wont break the bank...I cant tell you how many times I see First timer guys spending a grand or more on BB/CC and having it look like crap and how upset they get when they see one of my 1,000.00 Nason jobs..usually the first thing they say is How much clear is on that??? when done right you cant tell a solid color SS from a BC?CC unless you sand it.Prospray has a nice SS too and its much better as far as the quality and ease of spraying..The price resonable but I have to order it and thats a PITA,,,I'll put it this way,I'm going to use Nason black on my old plymouth

[R.sok]

I suppose this is my first *real car paintjob*. I've done rustoleum out of a hvlp once about 6 years ago, it turned out alright, I wasn't really to pleased with the gloss. As for the condition of the body it's in good shape, about 4 tiny dings in the rear, I can do the bodywork no problem.

My previous car when i was 17 (23 now) that I brought to maaco I did the body work myself & ended up using a highbuild & self etching primer out of the can that I purchased from autozone, I then used a cheap flat black paint around the whole car & dropped it off to maaco. No bleed through from the body work & Never had chipping problems for the 1 1/4 years I've owned it after being painted.

I'm curious as to whether I need to seal my car before spraying it. and as for the dings the are so small so I was wondering if putty would suffice as I'm trying to keep cost down but have the car look pretty good for the next couple years and not fade like my previous job at maaco (it was the second cheapest option I forgot which)

[R.sok]

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This was around 2 months after maaco

[R.sok]

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& this is what I plan on painting

[oldfart952]

ok make me ill how much did macco charge ya ???? i've watched them paint its a joke. warn guys to stay away.i've been a painter 36 yrs where do ya live. i help out guys. it blows to get charge thousands and its a **** job.if your not to fall away we'll talk KKKKKK ? pops

[Old Fool]

SPI is coming out with black in both base coat and single stage, that would be my choice of material.

[deadbodyman]

I've used SPI SSblack and its awsome paint but they stopped making it...Its good to hear about them getting it back,lord knows I've personally asked Barry a hundred times to start making it..he makes a hellava nice red too..
very good news...

[oldfart952]

SICK DUDE, GOODLUCK !!! SEE YA

[icsmannn]

All I can say, is that I took my daughter's 2001 Firebird (former total Loss with a Salvage Title) to Maaco (4 years ago) and we had them completely paint the car the original "burnt orange". Honestly, the car looked GREAT! They sprayed a BC/CC SS DuPont, entry-level paint, and the $750 price tag didn't hurt my pocket book NOR my pride (of not shooting it myself) one bit! HA! HA! And I'm a recovering-perfectionist! She just recently sold the car and the only paint chips were on the front bumper due to rocks, birds, and normal wear and tear from driving.

I also shot a SS Black (on my 2nd daughter's thrashed '97 Eclipse) that I bought from our own Wholesale Auto Paint jobber and it was an off brand of .....not Wanda....Urethane......something or other and it turned out great. Can't recall the brand name.....good GRIEF - just wait til you hit your 50's! Stink! LOL!

[icsmannn]

BTW - I had one of my son's H.S. buddies take his car to Maaco and quite frankly....the black looked pretty good.....from 20' away (aka - 20 footer). But like DeadBodyman had said earlier, what makes the final difference, in the finished look of a paint job, isn't so much the "price" as much as it is the level of expertise in HOW the paint was sprayed. The ONLY reason this guys paint job was a "20 footer" to me, was because a closer inspection showed "orange peel craters" and a few dirt nibs, here and there. ALL of that is pretty easy to correct if he'll invest a day's worth of sanding and buffing. Once done, it'll turn out looking like a much more expensive paint job!

[oldfart952]

yoh dude, i'm 61 and 4 kids later. hehehe