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Old 06-13-2008, 08:25 PM
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need help with gas line

i need to know what would be better to use
on my 1953 Chevy 210 to go from the tank
to the fuel pump then from the pump to the
carb 3\8 rubber line or should i go back with
metal line

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Old 06-13-2008, 08:28 PM
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The less rubber line you have the better off you are. Steel line with 4-6" on each end is what is typically accepted. Rubber line for fuel is dangerous

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what do you mean 4-6 on each end
would it be better just use metal line
as it is now the gas line is all original
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what do you mean 4-6 on each end
would it be better just use metal line
as it is now the gas line is all original
4"-6" of rubber line max at carb & tank. Stock engines run very smooth/minor vibration. Large cam engines can have a lot of shake/vibration & engine torque flex/movement so the rubber line can avoid cracks in a solid metal line at the engine. Depends on how rigidly mounted your hard lines are. You can go either way.
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Long sections of rubber line are a no-no. I put a short section right off the tank and between the frame and engine. The section between the tank and frame is so that its a bit easier to install and remove the tank. The section between the frame and engine is a necessity, even if you welded the engine directly to the frame. The constant vibration of the engine will kill a hard line.
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Old 06-14-2008, 07:39 AM
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OK so if vibes from the motor will kill hard line
than why on my 53 Chevy is all the gas line
from tank to the carb hard line
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Old 06-14-2008, 08:21 AM
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OK so if vibes from the motor will kill hard line
than why on my 53 Chevy is all the gas line
from tank to the carb hard line
There usually is a short (about 6" long) flexible line connecting the steel line coming from the fuel tank to the fuel pump. This allows for engine "flex". You can have hard line from the fuel pump to the carb as this will move with the engine. There may also be a very short section of rubber line on either side of a fuel filter. This is more for ease of assembly and / or removal though.
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OK so if vibes from the motor will kill hard line
than why on my 53 Chevy is all the gas line
from tank to the carb hard line
Because the previous owner had a deathwish.

If you think about it, the engine is mounted on rubber. The body is mounted to the frame with rubber. The fuel tank is mounted to the body. So, you have several flex points. Hard line doesn't like to flex. Take a paper clip and bend it back and forth about 5 times and its broken.

The constant flexing of hard line will make it harden and eventually break. Period. It must have flexible points in it.
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gas line.....

Hi,use only hard line,use clamps with rubber, to clamp hard line to chassis,every 2 feet,or ,where there is a bend in line. at the tank and fuel pump use a rubber line,use 2 clamps on each end of the line,only tighten clamps until rubber pushes thru slots in clamp,dont tighten so much,you tear the rubber.you can buy aluminum line from speedway,bends a lot easier than steel line.
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Chevy did use all hard line right up to the tank, and right into the fuel pump is hard line... that's actully how it was done on those cars. not really safe but 55 years ago, things were done diffrently.
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well i know that some cars use hard line and rubber
but on my 1953 it is all hard line
from the carb to the pump
and then from the pump to the tank
their is no rubber
so would it be better to use some rubber with the hard line
or just go with all new hard line
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Upgrade. No reason to use 50-year-old ideas when better ones are out there.
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it is true i need to upgrade why we got it down for repair
any way after it broke down the other day
after all the work we put in to it
it was running good than it stoped
like it had no gas it had a full tank
i think the timing might be off not
to sure

thats cool that is why i love talking to every one on here
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My '51 does the same thing, starving for gas. the pickups on the tanks get clogged and will cause the lines to suck dry... mines still in restoration prosess so I'll just change the tank b4 I put it on the road
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OK THAT MIGHT BE WHAT IS WRONG
THAT JUST GIVES ME A REASON
TO FIX IT
I KNOW THE GAS LINE LOOKED BAD
BUT I WAS NOT SURE
BUT I WILL REDO THE GAS LINE AND SEE HOW IT GOES
AFTER THE GAS LINE I NEED TO DO THE BRAKE LINE
I KNOW IT WAS BAD I MOVED THE LINE AND IT BROKE
SO I NOW NEED TO FIX IT FROM FRONT TO BACK
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