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Old 06-06-2013, 07:34 PM
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need help with a motor swap on a john deere

OK i got a 1986 John Deere 130 last week for free
it has a bad motor on it i would like to swap it
but not sure what i could put on it

here is the spec for the motor that is on it now

Engine Type: Kawasaki FC290V
gasoline
1-cylinder
air-cooled
Displacement: 286 cc [17.5ci ]
Bore/Stroke: 3.07x2.36 inches [78 x 60 mm]
Power: 9 hp [6.7 kW]
Rated RPMs: 3350
Starter volts: 12
Oil capacity: 1.125 qts [1.1 L]

here is a pic i got of the net of what it looked like new

any more info needed i can give if it will help

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Old 06-06-2013, 07:57 PM
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another kawy? Onan,Wisconson,Honda,Yamaha,,,,what kind of power take off are you using from the engine? SAE bell housings are universal fit or centrifical clutch and belt drive?
or swap a diesel,JD,Kubota,Yanmar
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Old 06-06-2013, 09:23 PM
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motor swap

just not sure what to use it has the Kawasaki motor
on it now and i cant find a good one to put back on
it we are looking at a briggs swap just not sure about
the swap due to the way the centrifical clutch and belt
drive set up is 0n the deck it has a switch to make the
deck work not sure if i can do away with it

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Briggs has 2 grades of engines.Buy the industrial grade.
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Any engine will work as long as it has the same sized shaft for the electric clutch and the electric clutch is going to sit in the same position as before

Whats wrong with the old engine, can it be fixed (rebuilt)?
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Any engine will work as long as it has the same sized shaft for the electric clutch and the electric clutch is going to sit in the same position as before

Whats wrong with the old engine, can it be fixed (rebuilt)?
Yep,same size and type as what you have in a shaft.Gotta have a tax number for this source.He buys over stocks and all are price reduced new.Industry leader in that market.

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What's wrong with the engine? The simplest and easiest approach may just be rebuilding it. Most lawn equipment engines are wicked easy to rebuild- provided you don't have a cracked block which I have seen a few times.
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I had a 185 hydro lawntractor lose oil and lock up on me a few years ago. It had a Kawasaki engine in it as well. I went to the local small engine rebuilder, and it seems a lot of the parts in that particular engine were discontinued or ridiculously overpriced. I ended up buying a refurbished engine over the internet and going on down the road. HOWEVER, when the motor locked up it bent one of the spindles for the mower blades. So make sure you check all of your pulleys etc and make sure its all in good order before you install a new motor.

I ended up having to get a bigger tractor, ended up with a craftsman with a 48" deck. This had tubular steel spindles with flanges that were spotwelded on. I hit one divot in the lawn and bent the spindle. And I wasn't doing my lawn John Force style either. So I called the repair center, under warranty, who sent out a tech. He looked at it, looked at my lawn and said 'I better show you how to fix this, you'll tweak it the next time you mow your lawn.' Really inspires confidence in a new product.

Fix the old mower if at all possible.
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We had a craftsman mower crack a block, they gave us a brand mnew mower and let us keep the old one, a little welding later... two Craftsman mowers for the price of one. I rebuilt the engine after it was welded and was damn surprised at how well it ran- I'm sure a new exhaust, porting, and milling helped it out some...

And no, I'm not making that up, I hotrodded a damn riding mower- did a push mower once too.
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Look into high level Junior Dragster motors...its amazing what some parents will throw down for their kid. Enclosed trailers, matching vinyl wrap for the digger, the trailer and maybe the truck; alcohol burning, high compression 'B&S' motor that cost as much as my first car. Drivers suits and helmets, tires and fuel....its insane. And in one case I know of, the lil girl HATED it.

Copper flashing makes a great headgasket shim for a briggs. And if you can find an old smog pump? you might have a hill-jack supercharger on your hands
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Old 06-07-2013, 03:39 PM
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just not sure what to use it has the Kawasaki motor
on it now and i cant find a good one to put back on
it we are looking at a briggs swap just not sure about
the swap due to the way the centrifical clutch and belt
drive set up is 0n the deck it has a switch to make the
deck work not sure if i can do away with it
The PTO clutch on your JD is not a "centrifical clutch". it's an electric clutch that operates much like the AC clutch on a car. Kaw is pretty good about using a STD american size (not metric) crank on there engines that come over here, so your stock clutch may fit whatever engine you come across. a couple things to watch for would be muffler outlet location, as well as carb and accessories for physical interference on your tractor, and be aware that 90% of the JD of that era used the anti-diesel solinoid, on the bottom of the carb bowl, to shut off the engine. all other manufactures shut the ignition off, but JD (much like Ford) has a "better way". regardless, you will most likely need to install a separate switch to kill the engine. most Briggs, Kohler, Tecumseh, etc, you need to ground out the ignition. do NOT put 12 volts to the coil or you will burn it up. virtually all are a magneto system.

The link I-Gary put up is a pretty good one for picking up a replacement engine, and a Kawi of the same size you have would be best IMHO. they make a very good engine. but that's up to you.
Oh BTW. don't buy a Tecumseh engine. they went bankrupt a few years ago and any parts that you can find are now reproduced (poorly) in China.

all in all, you could most likely buy a different tractor cheeper, but perhaps you just want to play. nothing wrong with that.

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I have a john deere 130 also it has a 22 hp kohler twin cyl it came new on it so tey are probably interchangeable, that will get rid of the 12 hp the Kawasaki engine normally is a good engine ..

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