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Old 10-13-2006, 11:28 PM
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Need a little advise.

I've been seeing this girl for about 3 years now but I've known her for about 8 years, problem is that I have a girl on the way now and I'm lost on what to do.

I'm in the Army as a Mechanic and I just found out a few hours ago that I'm going to back to Iraq for another 6 months. I'm lost on what to do. I want to tell her now because I only have 2 weeks before I have to go, but I don't know how to explain to her (especially becasue I just came back from Iraq 5 months ago).

Any advise would be greatly appreciated,
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Old 10-13-2006, 11:40 PM
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Just do it ASAP. You have some responsibilities to take care of because you can leave this young lady in dire straights by shipping out and leaving her high and dry. The best legal thing to do is marry her quick and get her enrolled in Tri Care and listed as your beneficiary on your SGLI. You need to establish an allotment so that she can have some money coming in (you know you don't have much of an opportunity to spend money if you are in the field a lot), and if you are killed, seriously injured or go MIA, she and your child will have money coming in until the legal process is carried out. When you return from Iraq, then you can get all the loose ends straightened.

Now if you don't care for her or your kid's well being, then keep your mouth shut and ship out. You will hate yourself for this down the road because it is hard to run away from yourself.

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Just do it ASAP. You have some responsibilities to take care of because you can leave this young lady in dire straights by shipping out and leaving her high and dry. The best legal thing to do is marry her quick and get her enrolled in Tri Care and listed as your beneficiary on your SGLI. You need to establish an allotment so that she can have some money coming in (you know you don't have much of an opportunity to spend money if you are in the field a lot), and if you are killed, seriously injured or go MIA, she and your child will have money coming in until the legal process is carried out. When you return from Iraq, then you can get all the loose ends straightened.

Now if you don't care for her or your kid's well being, then keep your mouth shut and ship out. You will hate yourself for this down the road because it is hard to run away from yourself.

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Yes also I am not sure as to who is eligable to apply for consciencous objector status but you could try. You could also attempt to move to Canada if you really don't want to go. Just make sure whatever you do is legal, that is if you want to be 99% sure you will be around for her and the kid. Its your life you make the choices, but whatever you do do as the others say and make sure she is a benificiary so your child is not left with no dad and in poverty.
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I've been seeing this girl for about 3 years now but I've known her for about 8 years, problem is that I have a girl on the way now and I'm lost on what to do.

I'm in the Army as a Mechanic and I just found out a few hours ago that I'm going to back to Iraq for another 6 months. I'm lost on what to do. I want to tell her now because I only have 2 weeks before I have to go, but I don't know how to explain to her (especially becasue I just came back from Iraq 5 months ago).

Any advise would be greatly appreciated,
Studebaker2JZ
I think the term you need to use is "Honey I received new orders and" ..... follow this with however you need to say the rest. Trees puts forth some good food for thought, cherry thunder sounds like a * with that lame rant.. Think he/she needs to remove the thunder from the handle and replace it with gas balloon, another living on the backs of the brave...... good luck to you and may God speed.

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Wow pepi I think that was entirly uncalled for, I was merly suggesting the guy think about his future and the future of the upcoming child. Maybe you need to get a life I mean the guy has served and certain priorities have arisen, it is his choice what to do.

Oh and another thing, not everyone has to serve their country in a controversial war to be a worthwhile human being, despite what you and some others think.
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Chevythunder...............Sounds to me, like you are from Canada...........You have to understand that Canadians and American dont always think the same, or have the same choices.

Also, he joined the army...when you do that, you join for a set amout of time...If they say he is going overseas, he going. You can't say, I am joining the army, but if we are gong overseas, I quit.........doesn't work that way.
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Poncho is absolutely correct. In the US joining the military is a choice not an obligation or requirement. When you do join you sign an contract with the US government and basically sign away certain rights you have as a civilian. When you do this and take the oath you become subject to the UCMJ (Uniform Code of Military Justice) and are bound by this set of rules for the duration of your contract.

If the Army says you're going overseas, you go. No questions about it. Although there always is the conscientious objector option it is rarely granted and has to be supported by some kind of logical reasoning. Escaping to Canada is the cowards way out and will result in the individual never being able to step on US soil again without being arrested and charged with either being AWOL (absent without leave) or most likely desertion. The later would result in years in a federal prison.

My advice to the young man is: Be a MAN and live up to the obligations you have voluntarily agreed to. Just because you're serving in the military doesn't mean you can't support a family at the same time. Trees has given you some very good advice and he speaks from experience. I served with him and for a time he was my commanding officer. Trust me he knows what he's talking about.

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This is stupid, I DIDN'T TELL THIS GUY TO DO ANYTHING. I SIMPLY SUGGESTED HE CHOOSE HIS PRIORTIES.

YOU PEOPLE ARE SCREWED UP YOU DONT THINK A CHILD IS A PRIORITY? WHAT THE HELL?

Then you have the nerve to call me names.... Why do you people feel you must judge everyone and put them down?

So you served in the military, I respect that, HOWEVER that does not make you better than everyone else. It does not mean you should be able to put people down who feel that fighting in a war is not the only way to prove you love your country. I choose to support my country by going to work and supporting the economy. I respect those who join the military but I feel supporting the economy is an equally powerful way in keeping a nation strong. After all, where would the any nation be if they didn't have people paying taxes in order to supply the troops? I pay taxes and I don't complain about it so the government and soldiers in MY country can have the supplies they need when they go to war.

From my understanding the United States military is lacking the supplies and money for some of these things. Like how they could not supply bullet proof vests to some soldiers.

Again I am not saying nobody should join the army, I respect military men, but for some people it is not an option, and you don't have to judge those people for their choices in life. After all, its not like I am choosing to be a crack head who leeches off the economy then throws rocks at soldiers when they come home.
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Hi, Just Do Whats Right. Serve Your Country But Make Shore That Your Wife Or Girl Friend And Child Are Taken Care Of. And Get Home Safe I Agree With ' Trees' Thoughts
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Pepi I edited your post. You can disagree all day long, but keep it civil. You've been a member for well over a year and you've been here long enough to know the guidelines.

I think this is especially important when we're trying to make points to people half our age.

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Just to give give you a heads up, but running here to Canada will not fix anything. I believe that there is legislation that we will ship you back to the US to be dealt with.

Do what trees said to make sure that kid is OK. Then try and get out the legal way as soon as possible. You put your name down saying that you would do this.

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Just to give give you a heads up, but running here to Canada will not fix anything. I believe that there is legislation that we will ship you back to the US to be dealt with.



John

We dont ship anyone back.....................There was a guy recently that stayed here for years over this very issue........I dont remember the outcome.

So called "refugees" land here every day...they get immediate welfare and healthcare to the tune of about $2400/month. A person who has worked their whole life here is entitled to about $1400 in government pensions. Tell me that is fair.

Sorry about getting off topic, but it burns my bum..............

I am no fan of war, but people need to realize, that if they commit to something, they need to follow it through................you take the bad with the good. As Centerline said, it is a volunteer army................which it was not back in the Vietnam days........................that was a different story.
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