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Old 09-08-2006, 03:29 PM
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Hi Folks,

1966 Ford Galaxie's used to have idiot-lights for engine temperature "Cold" (Blue), as well "Hot" (Red). I want to use both guages and idiot lights on my 66 GMC truck project.

I think ALL vehicles should have a "COLD" light ... as they are very effective at making driver wait until the engine and trans have come up to temperature before driving off.

NAPA/Echlin and Blue Streak (Standard Motor Products) both still have the 2-pin sending switch available:

Echlin # TS6155
Blue Streak # TS22



Does anyone know of a molded pigtail connector that fits this?
I had a 66 Galaxie as a kid, but can't recall if it had a single molded connector, or if it just used 2 single "slide-on" connectors ... similar to the ones on the starter solenoid.

If I have to, I will order 2 single connectors ... but I'd rather have a 1-pc molded one if they came that way.

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Don

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Doc here,

Try a "Right Head" temp/computer sensor for a 1980 Corvette..Looks similar..

If that won't get it, take it to the local bone yard and do some "custom" test fits.

Another way to go is mini ring terminals and bolts, (note threaded terminals)

You could also try blue butt splice ends..but that's really kinda hookey..

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My 62 Pontiac has a cold light.......the sensor has 2 connections. Maybe one of those will fit for you. Mine has 2 separate connectors to it.
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My 67 Chryslers had the hot / cold sensor.
I too wish that all cars had those.You might be able to use the Chrys. switch and the pigail for that.
I think that they used the standard Packard56 series terms. and the connector bodies are available for those.

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My 67 Chryslers had the hot / cold sensor.
I too wish that all cars had those.You might be able to use the Chrys. switch and the pigail for that.
I think that they used the standard Packard56 series terms. and the connector bodies are available for those.

Bryan
Hi Bryan,

I check the "67 Chrysler" (Newport w/383?) application as you suggested.

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Line Code: UNI
Part Number: TS6625
Description: Temperature Sender Light Switch
Attribute Features & Benefits:Light and Gauge Type,Temperature Rating:TCS terminal off at 103°F, "R" terminal on at 243-263°F,Thread Size:1/2" x 14 NPT,Type of Packaging:Box


The "Light and Guage Type" description is a little confusing, but the "off @103F" ,and "On at 243 ... sound right.

This 67 Chrysler actually has a "cold" light?
What do you suppose "TCS" stands for?

Please advise...
Thx,
Don

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This is the description for the switch from my original post:

Line Code UNI
Part Number TS6155
Description Temperature Sender Light Switch
Attribute Features & Benefits:Light Type,Temperature Rating:Green light to go OFF at 102-120°F, red light to go ON at 242-264°F.,Thread Size:3/8" x 18 NPT,Type of Packaging:Box

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68 fords (LTD anyway) also had this feature. might try a salvage yard.
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Not sure what the TCS stands for.
Green cold light---usually on for about four minutes in the winter in Idaho.
Red hot light---only saw that come on in the Phoenix summers

I suggested this type as it may be easier to locate the pigtail connector.
I guess if some GM products had the same feature (Idon't know) you could
use that switch as well.

Chrysler and GM used the Packard56 series terminals thru the sixties so locating a connector body to fit would be easier.

I am not sure but a Back-up switch on a manual floor shift GM tranny has the same pattern for connection--
--l _ shaped---most other two term bodies are
oriented in more of an L shape

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Not sure what the TCS stands for.
Green cold light---usually on for about four minutes in the winter in Idaho.
Red hot light---only saw that come on in the Phoenix summers

I suggested this type as it may be easier to locate the pigtail connector.
I guess if some GM products had the same feature (Idon't know) you could
use that switch as well.

Chrysler and GM used the Packard56 series terminals thru the sixties so locating a connector body to fit would be easier.

I am not sure but a Back-up switch on a manual floor shift GM tranny has the same pattern for connection--
--l _ shaped---most other two term bodies are
oriented in more of an L shape

Bryan
Yeah ... I'm thinking that a 2-prong signal flasher connector would work, too.
The next issue is that the Chrysler sender is 1/2" NPT. I think that the location that I want it on the intake manifold is 3/8" NPT. I suppose that I could just drill it out and re-thread it.

The GM sender that goes in the cylinder head (for the guage) is 1/2" NPT ... but I have read, here at HR.com, that senders for that location are purposely calibrated to "expect" 25 hotter than actual because of heat transfer from the exhaust ports.

Aw heck, I'll probably just use the Ford one ... with either individual slide-on terminals, or eyelets and nuts as suggested by Doc.
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My 62 Pontiac has a cold light.......the sensor has 2 connections. Maybe one of those will fit for you. Mine has 2 separate connectors to it.
Now here's a co-inky-dink for ya...
A 62 Pontiac Catalina uses the same (TS6625) temp sender as a 67 Chrysler Newport!

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Doc here,

TCS= Torque Converter Sender..

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Doc---It appears as if you have a dry sense of humor.

I like that

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Doc---It appears as if you have a dry sense of humor.

I like that

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Doc here,

..Can't get away with nuttin nomore...

My best REAL guess would be Thermally Controlled Switch (The Normally Closed Terminal) is off at that spec..103 deg. (Cold lamp) And switches the center wiper to the "R" Terminal (Normally Open) Terminal at 243 degrees..(Hot lamp) in-between that range is an "OFF" state output.

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