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Old 12-21-2008, 04:22 AM
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Need a source for door panel staples

I'm currently redoing the interior in one of my rides. I'm in the middle of replacing everything that was covered in vinyl from the factory with real leather. I've gotten to the door panels and have run into a bit of a problem. The hardboard that I'm using to make new door panels is only about 1/8" thick, the leather that I'm using is roughly 1/32" thick for a total of 5/32" without any foam. I've looked everywhere for staples with a wide enough crown that have legs that are short enough to not over penetrate or stick through the leather. In fact, I haven't found many options that are less than 1/4". Does anyone know where I may find upholstery specific fasteners? I've checked 2 local stores and searched the internet with no luck. I've come to the conclusion that I'll probably need to purchase a staple gun specific to these staples. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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The shortest staples I'm aware of are 3/16". What type of staple gun do you have, make and model? I have lots of sources for staples, but they only sell to upholstery shops.

If you can't find staples that will work, glue it.
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You could use a good contact glue instead of staples. I would probably glue even if I used the smaller staples as they sometimes don't hold very well in leather.
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I looked at a Senco brand pneumatic staple gun at one of the fastener stores I visited and looked at, I believe, a Catch-All brand gun on the internet. Neither of these staplers would shoot a staple with a short enough leg to get the job done. I considered glueing the leather but I am somewhat inexperienced in upholstery work and I'm unfamiliar with what to use that would be both strong and durable enough to hold the leather to the hardboard. I also am not thrilled with the idea of dropping $100+ for a gun that I may use a couple of times.

What would you guys suggest for padding behind the leather? From the factory it had a low density foam that pretty much has turned to dust. I was considering using a thin layer of something like neoprene but havent been able to find it in sheets or rolls big enough to do a door panel.

If you guys can't tell, this is my first interior job where I've had to fabricate my own materials. So any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, B
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could you cut 1/2 strips of your backer board, glue them to the edge then use 1/2 staples from the front to penetrate... then clinch them with a hammer and dolly then use the staple gun you have ??? just an idea. It might make the edges too thick.
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What would you guys suggest for padding behind the leather? From the factory it had a low density foam that pretty much has turned to dust. I was considering using a thin layer of something like neoprene but havent been able to find it in sheets or rolls big enough to do a door panel.
You can pad it with anything you like. Open cell foam is soft, the cheapest, and the easiest to find. Closed cell foam is very firm and Goes under the brand name Volara. Neoprene is the most expensive, and would be wasted padding a door panel. Check out this thread for how to glue the fabric to the panel. CLICK HERE It's not hard to do. Just remember, you have to scuff closed cell foam on both sides so the glue will stick.
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could you cut 1/2 strips of your backer board, glue them to the edge then use 1/2 staples from the front to penetrate... then clinch them with a hammer and dolly then use the staple gun you have ??? just an idea. It might make the edges too thick.
I have used staples from the front to get a certain effect before, and instead of clinching the staples that come through, grind them off. Then they won't get pushed back out when you try to clinch them. BTW, you can also just angle the nose of the staple gun which will let you use the longer staples. Gluing is still easier.
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I looked at the Volara online and it seems that it would work well for what I'm trying to do but I had a few questions. Is it hard to get it to adhere to either the leather or board? What kind of adhesive do you recommend? I saw that you mentioned scuffing the foam to get it to stick, whats the best way to do this? Do you have a supplier that you recommend? Thanks for all your help, your suggestions have given me some ideas that I hadn't previously considered.
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The only thing that will keep you from gluing success is not scuffing both sides of the closed cell foam. By "scuffing" I mean scratching the surface of the Volara foam so that the shiny surface is "scuffed" or "scratched" so that the glue can penetrate and not sit on the surface. You can scuff the surface or scratch the surface with anything that will "scuff" or "scratch" the surface, such as sandpaper, a sanding block, steel wool, etc.

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