[chev4u]

one more reason you couldnt give me a ford

[psbaker75]

Can't advise you on this specific problem, but it seems like you've already been given some great info. Your party metaphor just reminded me of something one of my instructors told me when I was taking my auto tech classes years ago "being a mechanic is worse than being a doctor as far as friends always wanting you to help them with some problem or another because not everyone is sick, but everyone has a car"

[66GMC]

The earlier (91 to 05) Triton engines had trouble pulling spark plug threads as well.

Dorman has come out with a repair kit of sorts for these, which uses that newer style extended tip plug in a different way.


Dorman #42025

Also available from NAPA
Balkamp # 600-3248

[Mojo56]

All the auto parts stores around here have the "black box" extractor kit that they will loan you when this becomes an issue... no need to buy one.

[geezer69]

auto zone has ben real good to me on loanin tools. you have to pay for it but can bring it back for a refund. i like that deal.

[Formulajim]

Ford builds the cheapest junk with the cheapest parts money can buy! The coils go out every other week. They sell new heads real cheep you might need a couple of new ones. It's a riot to put in ford spark plugs in your browser. Always good for a laugh. If you want to work on the motor just pull off the cab the ford manual says.

[boatbob2]

My Buddy, just had the plugs changed in his Ford pickup,had to jack up cab,the bill was $1600.00,had to heli-coil every plug hole,fords better idea.

[Blazin72]

Originally Posted by Formulajim

Ford builds the cheapest junk with the cheapest parts money can buy!

Please elaborate. GM and Chrysler do the same thing.

The coils go out every other week.

Interesting. I've had modular Fords for several years now without any issues. Again, please elaborate.

[ogre]

my neighbor just paid $800 to change his plugs on his f150 3 valve
tell your neighbor to save his receipt there is currently a class action suit on this he may be able to recoup his money.
ford really messed up on that long electrode plug and a 90k plug replacement policy.
now that the 3v mod motors are getting 100k miles on them this has reared it's ugly head.
anyone out there with 50k miles on a mod motor would be wise to change the plugs now.

the correct method is cold motor, loosen 1/2 turn, spray a little carb cleaner, next day loosen 1/2 turn, bit o carb cleaner and remove
careful with the carb cleaner, takes 8 oz to hydrolock a 3v motor

[Formulajim]

I can and have changed the plugs in my 04 Chevy SS in about 20 mins. They looked as good as the new ones only a little brown. And you can easily get to things on chev and dodges. Fords were designed to be quickly assembled on the line and are a nightmare to work on. I know this as I work for a boss who is a ford guy and all our trucks are fords. ( fleet mechanic). This week a clutch, an automatic trans fail. A coil and a computer water temp sender failure. Job security those fords. The planetary sets in the 99 v-10 had alum pins and I replaced all parts with aftermarket beefy stuff. Planetarys with six gears instead of four and steel pins not alum. Titanium sun shells better everything. The factory stuff is poor and the fact that the overdrive tranys revert to overdrive every time you start the truck. The tranys would last a lot longer if overdrive was only used on the freeway. Also non loaded trucks do a lot better. If you load them heavy like we do at work they can't take it.

[chucksgarage]

sell it an buy a chevy
or like the old saying goes... its a quart low on water in the intake.
you can try this first an all these know it alls will say dont do it, but it works.
remove top of air cleaner, start engine then hold throttle from carb or throttle body at about 3500 rpm or more but not wound tight.
very very slowly poor water into intake just enough to bog engine but not stall it.
this instantly removes all carbon buildup from combustion chamber, valves,plugs, etc. also can help with cheap gas ping.
ps: on injected engines, the overly oxygenated exhaust will cause o2 sensor to enrichen engine for a short time ensuring no burnt valves. on carbs just poor a capfull of marvel oil down intake after to coat valves.

[Mojo56]

I guess all the Chevy guys are clinging to their Vegas, Corvairs and Olds diesels... GM has never made and crap have they?

[Formulajim]

I've owned many fords. It's the new junk that isn't engineered to be accessible to work on.

[Blazin72]

Originally Posted by Formulajim

And you can easily get to things on chev and dodges. Fords were designed to be quickly assembled on the line and are a nightmare to work on.

Originally Posted by Formulajim

I've owned many fords. It's the new junk that isn't engineered to be accessible to work on.

Most vehicles have these problems in one area or another. GMs and Dodges have their pain in the rear, accessibility issues too. In order to change the heater core on a 99-07 Silverado you have to remove the entire dash from the firewall.

Ever change a power steering pressure line on a Honda Prelude? It's about six feet long and wraps (the long way) around the engine and down to the power steering rack that is behind and below the engine.

Replace the battery on a PT Cruiser? It's underneath the intake manifold plenum. If it needs to be jumped all you get are two little posts peeking up from underneath.

I can just imagine old timers in the 1950s complaining about the "complexity" of the (then) new 12v electric systems...

Maybe old timers from the turn of the 1900s complaining about them new fangled horseless carriages...

[Formulajim]

Point well taken. Jim