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Ole JIM 08-03-2006 01:15 AM

New-BEE!
 
HI Ole Jim here--a retired long haul Trucker-I have a 32 Ford Hot Rod Pick-up Ihave had since High School--back in the 50s--& I need HELP!--heres what I have--a 32 Ford Pu as stated above--Chopped Channeled w/ a 3-1/2 in Dropped front axle--Rolling Chassis--& heres what I*D like to do w/ It!--I have a V-6 4.3 Buick Diesel--Side mount Engine--& what I need to Know? is What GM auto tranny will bolt right Up to my 4.3 to install It conventionally in my 23 Ford pick Up!--& what? Process do You recogmemnd?--I Start with?--Brake Lines?--as I intend to install a Late Rear End--out od a Bronko?--Granada?-- as YOU can all SEE! I*M New at this!--any Suggestions will be Appricated!--Thanks Ole JIM

home brew 08-03-2006 01:37 AM

Welcome to the site Ole JIM. :welcome: Now that's keeping a rod a long time! :thumbup: That sounds like a great project you will have there. A Buick diesel in that rod will be a real head turner. As this is the introduction forum you will get much more exposure to your questions in the Transmission - Rearend forum. I don't know the answers to your questions but the members who check that forum may know the answers. Good luck with getting that old hot rod back on the road.

Ole JIM 08-03-2006 02:15 AM

New BEE!
 
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Originally Posted by home brew
Welcome to the site Ole JIM. :welcome: Now that's keeping a rod a long time! :thumbup: That sounds like a great project you will have there. A Buick diesel in that rod will be a real head turner. As this is the introduction forum you will get much more exposure to your questions in the Transmission - Rearend forum. I don't know the answers to your questions but the members who check that forum may know the answers. Good luck with getting that old hot rod back on the road.

Home Brew--Thanks! as I*M an Ole 50s Era Hot Rodder & I*LL admit I am Totally LOST as back 50 odd yrs Ago I was up on all this HOT Rod stuff- & - YEH! I Dono? why?? but I just never Parted w/ my Ole ROD!--as Here every One has a BIG GAS engine--in their RODS! but I have never been much of a FOLLOWER!--this IS! My Last chance to Cruise once More--ME & my Ole 32--I have a lot of Negitive replies Locally--in installing a Diesel in my 32--One GUY even wanted to Give ME a Big Bloch Ford!--NOPE! mines going to Be DIESEL Powered!--which I personally think? would be Really Cool? as a Young Feller 1/2 a century Ago --It was a Tire Burning!! Hot ROD--but Seeing they Run BIG Gas Jobs in theirs--I*M goona Run a DIESEL in Mine IF I can??--Tranny to BellHousing is my Big Problem?? & some Member?? should Know??--thus! My HELP HELP?--PLEE! so I*M starting my Winter Project Early??? as I really Don*t Desire! To Go to a Salvage Yard & spend the DAY Matching My Bellhousing to Every Auto Tranny There!--in Hopes?? of finding Out?? what One will Fit? but I Will--if I have Too??--as MY Project could Be? a Members Project?--as I DO need all the HELP I can GET! --Ole JIM--

Henry Highrise 08-03-2006 05:12 AM

Welcome to the Hotrodders Bulletin Board......Lots of opinions, advice, and info here...so jump right in. :welcome: Best to ask your questions in the proper forums....that way the folks with the answers will see them. This is the Introduction forum.

Ole JIM 08-03-2006 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Henry Highrise
Welcome to the Hotrodders Bulletin Board......Lots of opinions, advice, and info here...so jump right in. :welcome: Best to ask your questions in the proper forums....that way the folks with the answers will see them. This is the Introduction forum.

Thanks Henry Highrise--Sorry I have inquired in the Trans Rear end Forum--NO reply? thus Far?? Sorry wrong Forum! at 73 yrs Old I guess? I*M in a slight Hurry! Sorry Again---Ole JIM

home brew 08-03-2006 10:32 AM

Don't worry about it. Just about everybody makes that same mistake when they join. Have you thought of using a different diesel that was originally a rear wheel drive?

Ole JIM 08-03-2006 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by home brew
Don't worry about it. Just about everybody makes that same mistake when they join. Have you thought of using a different diesel that was originally a rear wheel drive?

NO! as I would like to USE what I have! I have an Olds 5.7 but its way to Heavy! & now on a fixed Income--I joined figureing Some One would Know??--I Guess? I*LL have to Make up My 4.3 Bell housings Bolt Patten & spend a Day?? at our local Salvage Yard & Hopefully?? Find One that Matches??--as I can*t really Afford to spend very Much!--Ole JIM

home brew 08-03-2006 02:16 PM

You might try coming after this is a different way. What transaxle came with that engine? Did it come with any other engine? Then try to find out if any transmission matches up with those engines.

Ole JIM 08-03-2006 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by home brew
You might try coming after this is a different way. What transaxle came with that engine? Did it come with any other engine? Then try to find out if any transmission matches up with those engines.

Homebrew --I really don*t know? & I have asked? & It Appears as though? NO one here Knows?--so I*LL make a Template of My Bell Housing & GO to the local Salvage Yard & match It to GM Auto Trannies until I find a MATCH! End of SUBJECT!--as I Assume?? a regular 4.3 would be my best Bet?--as thats where I*LL Start!--as I thought?? May bee?? some one this Site would Possibly Know??--but I Guess?? NOT!!--which would have Saved Me a lot of Work!-- But NO Problem!--as I have Done this Before!--on other Motors & Trannys!--as NEXT Spring I*LL be CRUISING-- in My 32 Ford Diesel powered pick up!--Ole JIM

Kevin45 08-04-2006 02:11 AM

Hey Ole Jim...Welcome. And not to run you off (we hope you stay and share your build with us) but try a Buick site. There are quite a few Buick gearheads out there that may be able to answer your question. Here are a copuple of sites that I found:

http://www.turbobuick.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=3
http://www.turbobuick.com/
http://www.buickstreet.com/
http://www.transmissionadapters.com/

Triaged 08-05-2006 10:54 PM

I did some quick searching on google and found this for you

http://cruisers.shoumatoffmedia.com/43GMdiesel.html
Quote:

Chevy 4.3L V6 Diesel and the Toyota Land Cruiser

From the LCML:

"Chet Wagner" <chetwagner@msn.com> wrote:

>Form doing a bit of research, I have found the following vehicles with the
4.3 diesel V6 in a rear-wheel-drive package needed for a conversion:

Monty Carlo 1982-83
Malibu 1982-83
Buick Regal 1982-83
Oldsmobile 1980-85 rear wheel drive "Cutlass, Hurst/Olds"
These engines have the typical 350 bellhousing bolt pattern.

The front-wheel-drive engines will not work unless you use a transmission
that will bolt to a 2.8-3.4 60 degree v6 engine, at least that is what I
understand.


For those willing to try this, a turbo from a 2.2 turbo Dodge whatever at
about 3-5 psi boost will net up to about 25% more power without internal
engine modifications. Of course, easier said than done. Be good for
altitude compensation though.

Some of this information may not be quite right, so give me a break if I am
wrong. I am still looking around for more information, so stayed tunned.Furthermore with adapters from Advance Adapters and others there are a lot of options.
From the sounds of it the FWD version is the same pattern as the RWD 60deg V6 (such as the 2.8L in S10's and 3.4L in Camaro's to name a few). From what I understand the engine isn't exactly set up for normal side engine mounts. I'm sure you will figure out some way to mount it.

Edit: some more info.
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=478750

Ole JIM 08-05-2006 11:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevin45
Hey Ole Jim...Welcome. And not to run you off (we hope you stay and share your build with us) but try a Buick site. There are quite a few Buick gearheads out there that may be able to answer your question. Here are a copuple of sites that I found:

http://www.turbobuick.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=3
http://www.turbobuick.com/
http://www.buickstreet.com/
http://www.transmissionadapters.com/

Kevin-I tried the Team Buick site--& they Dono? Thanks for the Additional lNFO--Will Check them Out! GEE! You know! I don*t Feel Alone any More in My Search! as a 1/2 century ago I would have Known! what fit What? & just so You guys Know! locally I*M getting a lot of Static from the Ole Ford Guys!--Keep it all Ford!--install a Big Gas engine!--HEY! I don*t tell You what to DO! w/Yours!--& as a Retired TRUCKER! & Not a Follower--I think? an Ole Ford Diesel Powered pick UP--would Be really a Cool Ride!--espeically w/ the Diesel Knocking Rattle--& all that Black Smoke!-- ought? to get some Attention??--Ole JIM--

Ole JIM 08-06-2006 02:50 AM

4.3 Diesel tranny??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Triaged
I did some quick searching on google and found this for you

http://cruisers.shoumatoffmedia.com/43GMdiesel.html


From the sounds of it the FWD version is the same pattern as the RWD 60deg V6 (such as the 2.8L in S10's and 3.4L in Camaro's to name a few). From what I understand the engine isn't exactly set up for normal side engine mounts. I'm sure you will figure out some way to mount it.

Edit: some more info.
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=478750

Triaged---I can*t THANK YOU! Enough for YOU going out of Your WAY!-too Look Up! this INFO for ME! as its been a 1/2 Century since I was Involved w/ installing differant Engines & Trannies in any thing!--as I*M now in my early 70s & even though I*M still in pretty Good Shape Health Wise! & can still Turn a Mean Wrench--I can*t begin to tell YOU what it Really means to ME!--as this will be my LAST Mechanical Project--& I have had my 32 Ford HOT ROD pick Up since the early 50s--in my High School Days!--back then--I was an Apprentice after School in a Body Shop--& I got a lot of Advice!-when I Chopped It-& Channeled IT--but--I Did it ALL myself!--even Z-ed the Rear Frame--& I installed a 3-1/2 inch Dropped front Axle--so its about as Low as it can Get?--& where every ROD I see has a Big Cu in GAS engine--& ME a retired Trucker--I thought? a 32 Ford HOT ROD Diesel powered pick Up--well it sure is going to be Differant!--& since High School I have Owned & driven BUICKS--& having the ole 84 century w/ the 4.3 Diesel that the Frames rusted beyond Re-pair-- why Not?? install It in my HOT ROD!--as I have Never Seen a Diesel in Any Hot Rod Before?--& w/ the Diesel Clatter & Black Smoke out of BIG dual Stacks--I think? it will be the Coolest HOT ROD around!--my up comming Secret winter Project!-- My wife of over 40 yrs thinks Its a Great IDEA! I have spent several weeks Inquiring?? & w/NO real Answers--She saw & read Your Reply--& came Running to the Gararge to Get ME!--JIM!! a GUY just sent YOU Exact INFO on a Tranny to Bolt Up to your 4.3- Come Quick!--which I DID!--THANKS AGAIN!! YOU Saved & Made Our DAY!--Ole JIM--

Triaged 08-06-2006 12:08 PM

The story about your wife was funny :D

Don't listen to the guys that want to talk you into building a car the you won't want. Hotrodding is all about taking what you have and modifying/improving it to what YOU want. I thought the dodge 2.2L turbo sounded like a good suggestion too :thumbup:

Mustangsaly 08-06-2006 05:17 PM

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Ole Jim,

as a diesel 32 Ford P/U is not my style, (I would do a flat head & two 1 barrel carb setup, or a 428 super cobra jet.) but thats me, I do agree a 32 Ford diesel P/U would be neat for a ole OTR Trucker, (probably just plain ole Neat !) I'm in the car transport business, I own one 99 international eagle single axle semi tractor 335HP Caterpillar and a 10speed, pulling a 4 car wally mo trailer. enjoy your project and stay around. my neighbor has a 30 ford model a or t coupe thats original, butt needs restored or hot rodded, I think anyway. I would make it look like this.

(I don't know whos car this is, but I like it)



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