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Old 04-03-2007, 09:58 PM
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new engine oil priming

Hi Hot rodder gurus,

this question would probebly sound a bit premiture for some but I just finished rebuiling my first SBC 350 for my 58 vette and I was priming the oil pump before trying to start the engine, but I only get oil coming through the right cylinder head(1,3,5,7). I had th drill going for apx 15 minutes until it was smoking and oil gage was shut up to max but no oil showing up on left cylinder head(2,4,6,8).
any idea would be appreciated

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That is pretty normal. Try rotating the engine by hand then priming it again. Sometimes the oil never shows up on all rockers when priming. As long as you have good oil pressure it should be fine.

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Are you using a shaft with the lower part of the dist on it. if not you won't get oil. If you are there is a problem. I don't have any problem with oil getting to both sides without rotating. my stars might be lined up right. You could try rotating the crank 180 degrees.
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I usually need to prime, then rotate the crank some and prime again, and repeat untill I see oil out of all the pushrods.
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First of all, the left bank or driver's side is numbered 1,3,5,7, not as you stated. Secondly, what type of 350 SBC are you talking about? And lastly, did you put ALL the oil plugs back in place when this engine was rebuilt?

Scraping the anals of my mind and something tells me the Vortex has a problem with one of the oil gallery plugs being screwed to far inward and it cuts off oil supply to the cam and lifters. Check with your engine rebuilder BEFORE attempting to start this engine.
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First of all, the left bank or driver's side is numbered 1,3,5,7, not as you stated. Secondly, what type of 350 SBC are you talking about? And lastly, did you put ALL the oil plugs back in place when this engine was rebuilt?

Scraping the anals of my mind and something tells me the Vortex has a problem with one of the oil gallery plugs being screwed to far inward and it cuts off oil supply to the cam and lifters. Check with your engine rebuilder BEFORE attempting to start this engine.
Uhhh, that would be the ANNALS of the mind. The ANALS are at the other end.



I am guessing that he is describing the engine as viewed from the front. I am also guessing that he is not using a primer that has the distributor body on it, causing that galley to not oil properly.



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There are commercially available tools to prime the pump on a SBC ... but I just cut the teeth off a old worn out SBC distributor ... and welded a 1/2 inch not on the top ... presto ... home made tool.

If all the passages are not filled with the distributoe ( like it was running ) ... oil pressure does not go everywhere it should.
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new engine oil priming

Thanks for the replies,

to clarify some of the questions, the 350 engine came out of a 1970 Z28 and it was machined by Dublin Machine Shop in CA. the primer I'm using is a straight shaft I bought from a local part store.
I did rotate the engine back and forth about +/-90 degrees but I don't believe 180 degrees.
I was looking at the 1,3,5,7 from the front of the engine, do agree that 1,3,5,7 are on the driver side

I'll try to rotate the engine 180 degrees and try it again.

Thanks you all.
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Thanks for the replies,

to clarify some of the questions, the 350 engine came out of a 1970 Z28 and it was machined by Dublin Machine Shop in CA. the primer I'm using is a straight shaft I bought from a local part store.
I did rotate the engine back and forth about +/-90 degrees but I don't believe 180 degrees.
I was looking at the 1,3,5,7 from the front of the engine, do agree that 1,3,5,7 are on the driver side

I'll try to rotate the engine 180 degrees and try it again.

Thanks you all.
Does your primer have some sort of bushing or body on it that completes the oil galley like the distributor itself does? If it doesn't, you can spin the engine over until Sunday and if won't make any difference!

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Take a good look at the Picture that Deuce put up there.

The alluminum peice that's just above the actual Drive part (bottom) is what

the guys here are talking about.... That allum. peice with the groove in the

middle connects the two lifter galleries together. With out that there you

can't prime both sides and you'll have lower oil pressure because it's just

dumping into the lifter valley instead of going through the other bank.

Get a real primer! There less than 20.00

Cool, Scott~
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Thanks for explaining it better than I did ...

Go here to buy a Tavia ... plus they have some other good engine tools ...

http://www.tavia.com/cat13.html
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new engine oil priming

I'd like to thank you all for your replies and I'm glad to say that the suggestion to use a primier with the distributor end did the job and I'm getting oil on all rockers now

one step closer to firing the engine and hearing my new Cam.

Cheers
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well,, was having the same problem and this discussion got me the answer i needed.. thank you all..

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