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montea 05-02-2004 06:21 PM

new front brakes sticky
i just put on some new rotors and brake pads on the front of my 82 grand prix. no fluid or anything in the brakes. the wheel is hard to turn. is that normal?? will it fix itself once i put fluid in it and start using the car??

poncho62 05-02-2004 06:24 PM

Are you sure that you have the caliper back on square?

Did you push the piston all the way back into the caliper?

montea 05-02-2004 07:53 PM

ya i pushed the piston back, unless it moved back out or somthing... i dont think so, no brake lines even hooked up. how do u mean put the caliper back on sqaure?

how tight should i be putting thos allen key bolts that hold the calipers in place?

poncho62 05-02-2004 08:11 PM

If you pushed the piston all the way in, there should be a little space between the pads and rotor. This closes up once you step on the pedal the 1st time.

Is both sides the same?...maybe you have the wrong pads, but I don't think so, if they fit.

By square, I mean that they are straight....nothing is bent, is it?

montea 05-02-2004 09:06 PM

nothing is bent that i can tell.

on the caliper where i put the long bolt threw there is like little things that i had to push out to fit the caliper on. they are like a bushing inside the hole. when moving those it like adjusts the caliper i think. i couldn't get the caliper over the bolt hole on the spindle without moving them over a bit. did i do something wrong there?

i put some brake fluid in and pumped the brakes a few times and it got worse... can barely turn the wheel

poncho62 05-02-2004 09:09 PM

Yeah, you did the right thing moving those spacers..............Put some fluid in them, bleed 'em and try it. If they overheat, they are too tight. If not, they should be OK.

montea 05-03-2004 01:27 AM

ok thanks

for changing out the rear drum brakes what tools do i need to buy? i need to change the pads, drums and wheel cylinders. looks very complicated with all thos springs and *****.

once i got the rear brakes on ill bleed all the brakes then hopfully the front wont stick then...

poncho62 05-03-2004 05:27 AM

You need a spring tool, pliers and whatever size socket that the bolts on the cylinder are. The cylinders are a real pain in the *ss to change. Actually, there was a recall on these cylinders and backing plates, they kept rusting out.

montea 05-04-2004 10:44 PM

ok well im working on the rear brakes right now and i got the passenger side all apart and finnally got the wheel cyl on after like a hour trying to get the clip in. the wheel cyl feels a bit loose and if i pull on it enough it just pops off. i cant imagine that is good. all that holds it on is just 1 circle clip thing on the back side.

poncho62 05-04-2004 10:47 PM

Yeah, they are real crap................bend the tangs on the clip out a bit more to grip the cylinder better. You don't want them falling out.

montea 05-05-2004 03:05 AM

ok i got thew new pads and wheel cyls installed on the rear fine now.

i installed the rotors and wheels and put the parking brake on to test and with both rear wheels off the ground and tranny in neutral. the drivers side i cannot turn forward at all and i can barely turn it backwards but on the passenger side i can turn it forward with not much effort and turning it backwards it grabs a bit. is that normal or do i need to adjust something to get the best out of the E-brake.

the drums that were on the back of my car i took off earlier today and they were rusted the F*ck out so i just junked them and went and got another set i had. took them to auto value and he measured and said they could be machined 1 more time but since theres not to much more on them they could warp or somthing and recommends just reusing them they way they are, scuff them up and use them 1 more time. should i use them or fork out the money on some cheapy Jasper drums from crappy tire, like $25 a peice i think? not shure though

poncho62 05-05-2004 05:30 AM

You need to adjust the shoes so that they are just slightly rubbing on the drums.

Clean up the drums that you have.

montea 05-05-2004 03:33 PM

OK thanks alot poncho, you helped me out alot :thumbup:

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