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Old 03-09-2005, 03:23 PM
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New Mig Welder

I haven't seen too much said about the HTP line of welders. I was going to go for the Miller 210 until I received the HTP catalog, now I'm tempted to go buy the HTP 200. Any comments???????????????????????

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Just my two cents, I have been welding since 1968 and have my own shop today and I would strongly recommend staying with the Miller, Lincoln or Horbart and then there is just no question about the service and dependability. Which ever you choose from the big three you will be getting the top of the line so why compromise?
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Old 03-09-2005, 07:54 PM
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I just saw a new MATCO unit that allows AMP changes on the fly and with a knob on the handle. That looks pretty sweet, I have trouble with burn through on thin stuff at the edges with this you could turn it down and not burn through.
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Old 03-09-2005, 10:10 PM
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...I have a Eltec migmaster 250 , think it is now called Esap , works great. Only thing I did to it was add a thermo switch so the fan doesn't run all the time. Would love a spool gun for it but abit too costly for my needs. One thing I remember looking for in a mig was the duty cycle, the higher the better.
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Old 03-10-2005, 07:42 AM
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I'm planning on getting the HTP 160 in a couple of months. Their customer service up to this point has been fantastic. The person I've been working with over there has answered all my questions (and then some) and even sent me their training video for free. That lists on their site at $39 clams

I really like the stitch/spot weld functions on the HTP welder. They have the same warranty as Miller or Lincoln and they've got some pretty neat accessories as well.

I think they are a little more pricey than others, but I'm willing to pay that for the extra features. I will admit, I haven't found many independent HTP reviews, however, the one's that I have found, have all been positive.

If you buy one before June, repost here and let me know what you think!!!
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Old 03-10-2005, 12:26 PM
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Go to the Body-Exterior Forum and read Centerline's thread on welding.
FAQ#3 Welding body panels in the sticky post's

Lot's of good info.
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Old 03-11-2005, 12:20 PM
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I have the HTP 140. I really like the welder and as stated above the customer service is great. I dealt with Jeff Noland, who I believe is the president of the company. He has been great. Now I don't use my welder every day, but when I do, it works flawlessly. If you compare the designs of the drive rollers and how they build the "innards", I don't feel you can beat them in comparison. Yes, you do have the issue of not being able to get consumables at your local weld shop, but that just makes you have to be better prepared. Check out the website, I believe it is www.weldusa.com. It is very informative.
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Not sure about either of those welders but have a look at the duty cycle
A 20% duty cycle will give you 2 minutes welding out of 10 minutes at full or rated amps before needing to cool down so a 60% duty cycle gives you 6 minutes so it can make a difference
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.....just like I mentioned up top , dpsmith is right about the duty cycle.
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htp welders

i have the htp 200 mig, and will never use any other welder. i've used lincoln, miller, and century, but the htp has worked the best for me. getting ready to get the tig 201 as well. i know jeff, and have gotten nothing but fantastic service and support from him and his company. he cares about his customers, and makes it a point to let them know that. as far as consumables go, you can use lincoln tips. i get mine from home depot whenever i need them. they are the same thread and length as htp's.
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dpsmith - you have to compare apples to apples. The HTP is rated at 20% duty cycle at 200 amps and 100% duty cycle at 105 amps. The Miller 210 is rated at 60% duty cycle at full output of 160 amps???? I don't know if that means the Miller 210 is actually only 160 amp welder, or if they rate them differently. I would be more interested at what amperage the Miller gives 100% duty cycle.

Predator - thanks for the info on the tips. What about the nozzles. Hobarts are similar, but don't work.
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Toyman: I looked up the duty cycles on the Miller web site and they are as follows. The Miller is rated 130 amps at 100% duty cycle, and 200 amps at 35% duty cycle. After all the comments I got from everybody, Thank You All, I broke down and went for the Miller 210. I ordered it today. I guess my biggest reason is there are two Miller dealers within a couple of miles and the HTP is out of state. I guess I can't go wrong with Miller and it is easier for me to get parts and equipment.
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nozzles you'll have to get from htp. their guns are their own. mine is still in perfect shape though, so it will be a while before i need another..........
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Smsgtdaves - I couldn't get on the Miller site yesterday, that's good information. Congratulations on your new welder, a new toy is a new toy, enjoy.
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When you compare things like duty cycles, remember the kind of welding you usually do. Duty cycle go up as amps go down. If you do a lot of sheet metal work, it will be lo amps and short periods. You likely won't exceed the limits of a really cheap welder. If you are regularly fabricationg roll cages, duty cycle is more of an issue.. I know I've never encountered a duty-cycle issue in my little 120 volt Lincoln but I don't do heavy sections with it very often.
I don't have an HTP but I've yet to hear any real complaints about them.
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