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Old 02-01-2003, 05:38 PM
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Why is all forums the same. I have been searching different forum sites and Hotrodders seems to vague. There should be at least chevy and ford specific areas to post forums. You should click "Chevrolet" and then see motor, suspension, etc. this would be allot easier to search for info you can use instead of reading through all the forums to find out you cant even use any of the info. you just attained. maybe even pre and post 1960's would even help more. The way it is now takes too long to find any good info. This is a very good site but If you make some changes like this it could be by far the best and easier for every one to use. I have spent hours reading all the posts and only can use 1/10 of the info I just gathered because trucks, cars, ford, chevy, dodge, and any other manufacturer are all in the same category also 20's, 30's 40's and so on years all the way to 2003 model cars are looking in the same section. Some of the info. is universal but MOST isn't. Moderators please think about this

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Old 02-01-2003, 06:20 PM
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If you use the search engine provided it will narrow things down. If you want specific info on ford 302 upgrades all you have to do is enter ford 302 and engine section in the hotrodders search engine and those posts will come up. It is not a perfect system but it helps. Hotrodders has worked like this for some time now and personally (just me) I like it this way with us all working together and not seperated into groups. Their are many of us who can just as easily answer a question about timing a sbc as timing a sbf. The board is already broken down into catagories (engine,trans,electrical,etc.), I see no reason to break it down even further. I myself really like the fact that over the years we have worked real well at eliminating the Ford/Chevy/Mopar barriers and created a board of 'car guys' or 'hotrodders' all working together. This also gives Jon (webmaster) time to work on other site business like the 'Knowledge Base' which will in time also help those looking for specific tech information. I can not speak for the other moderators or board members but this is how I feel. You asked.
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We use a great deal of member input to shape the board, but to be honest, most suggestions for new forums don't get implemented. I think this is the third one I've turned down in the past week. I realize it seems a little harsh, but keeping things organized around here is a real challenge. Here's the explanation for this one.


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We try to avoid dividing the board up into make/model categories because it can lead to some silly wars over whose brand of metal is the best. Much of what is posted applies to many brands anyway.
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It's also an organizational issue. When we first designed the taxonomic classification for the site, we found that the automotive world breaks down very cleanly into categories based on parts. When you get makes and models involved into the equation, it screws up the whole nomenclature. So we did what you see in the <a href="http://hotrodders.com" target="_blank">hot rod search engine</a> -- there is a categoric listing by part, and, side-by-side, a categoric listing by make and model.

The reason we figured that a similar setup might not work on the board, besides the above explanation, is that, when you divide by make and model AS WELL AS by part, you establish a situation where questions need to be placed in duplicate categories. What if you are removing an engine from a Chevy, to place it in a Ford, and you have questions about the whole process. Where to post? In the Chevy:Engine category, or Ford:Engine? This is not a problem for something like the hot rod search engine, or the knowledge base, because we can just double-list the links in two categories, using a special protocol to decides what gets listed where. Creating multiple, overlapping categories on a bulletin board and expecting thousands of people to double-post is not reasonable.

With the current method we're using, the question goes right in the Engine category.
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I do understand where you're coming from though. As was mentioned above, you can use the search function. Once you get the hang of it, it's extremely useful.


We're also going to set up a make/model listing for the Knowledge Base as well, just like the hot rod search engine has. So, on the first page, there will be a listing by part, like there is now, AND a listing by make/model. So a Ford 302 article would appear in the Engine:Articles category, as well as the Ford:Articles category.
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In addition to the above reasons, if we were that organized, we would turn into the stupid part store computer (you know the one) where if your engine isn't orignal to the car, you are screwed. Perhaps this is an exagerated simile, but it works. Also, there are way too many makes and models of cars to have a category for each. True, many of them are not in popular use, but you would have a forum for them or the people that do own them would be left out on the street.
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I think it would just get really confusing after a while
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I personally like having all the sections cover everything.. I have learned alot of stuff about ford, mopar, and other makes... Plus it helps out having the ford guys around when you wanna put a 9 inch in a chev or something like that... I think that maybe we could devide the engine section up in some way because of the high traffic it gets or we could just leave it I'm not sure which would be best..
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What's the old saying...

If it aint broke, don't fix it.
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Segregation of the forums as to make or model would be a mammoth mistake, segregation is almost never a good thing.

Besides rodding transends make and model and the nonsense mark rivalry if you ask me. The air and fuel don't know what model of engine it's going into?
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I like it the way it is but I'm not the one trying to change anything.


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i think the difference comes in the nature of the site. as mentioned above[hotrods] use lots of different parts from different makes, so it makes sence that the catagorys would be more general than other car sites. we don't care where it came from as long as it works lol!!
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yeah what helrazr3 said
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I for one love the way this place is set up. We are all Hot Rodders and thats what it's all about.
Ford, Chevy, Dodge, whats the difference? If it's a Hot Rod it ok by me. Car or Truck no difference, just as long as it's a Hot Rod or you want it to become a Hot Rod. Isn't that what it's all about? Well that's what it is to me anyway.
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