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A 3800-lb. Valiant is pretty heavy. Is that a guess-timate or did you have it weighed? Might be time for that car to go on a diet...

Personally, I'd go for more cubic inches. I'm sure you can find 360's, 400's, etc. for cheap. Just the torque alone will get your car moving quicker off the line, and allow you to use more street-able gears. Do you have timeslip that breaks down your run? Do you know your 60-ft. time?

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Didn't the 2010 gt500 run like mid 12's on motor-trend? With a few bolt-ons you could maybe see some,what mid or low 11's? But look at the price tag+tax+tittle plus the mods(which are not cheap) to get that ride. Invest that amount in any old heavy chevy. You'll be began for 10 lengths. That 35k that you spend on that bolt-on gt500 would never see 35k invested in an old school anything,lol. Or is that a fair comparison?
Actually the sticker price begins at $50k. The point of the price tag is that the car is a triathlete; capable of performing exceeding well at the strip, road course and on the trip home with MPG. You truly get what you pay for. I can't think of any older car that could do the same... let alone for the same price. There's some confusion when people look at the advertised numbers and remember the numbers of the past. The dominance in performance can be attributed to chassis and suspension technology, which you're not going to get with an older car.

There's a lot of romanticizing with the cars of the past. They were great cars, could really get up and move for their time, and had a lot of style and charisma. A lot of what makes them so endearing to the enthusiast is what also makes them so unpopular with your every man and weekend warrior. I love old iron - and always will - but this new crop of muscle is better and badder. It's just a shame that they're a whole lot uglier.
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The problem with alot of cars is the lack of fuel injection. Too many people are intimidated by it and its cost when a carb is so much cheaper. A carb gets the job done but its not good at it.
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Lol,50k........ Plus mods. I respect the fact that technology has vastly improved over the years. How easy is it to go spend that amount on a new car plus a few easy bolt on mods. I thought this was hot rodding? Like I said before,that amount invested in old school,and the newer car is out of gas!!!!! I can't say that I have as much time in as others. But I'm from a new era of hot rodding. We not only drag 1/4 mile,we also drift,road race,and the occasional street race(which I don't condone) We build our own modern technology. They make suspension and steering components that will make your old 67 camaro handle like heaven. !! To answer the newer car technology comment. Just as the newer cars have advanced,so has the parts for the older cars. So to compare $ to $. It's still all about preference I guess. Either you a hotrodder or a poser who wants to look cool. Like I read in a previous post. A classic says personality and taste. I like iron better than plastic anyday!
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Lmao,just look at topfuels aviator or his profile. That's just sick. How many gt500 or ss camaros have gave you trouble at the track topfuel??
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A 3800-lb. Valiant is pretty heavy. Is that a guess-timate or did you have it weighed? Might be time for that car to go on a diet...

Personally, I'd go for more cubic inches. I'm sure you can find 360's, 400's, etc. for cheap. Just the torque alone will get your car moving quicker off the line, and allow you to use more street-able gears. Do you have timeslip that breaks down your run? Do you know your 60-ft. time?
The 4" stroke is desireable for the small mopars.


Although a 440 4 speed cuda convert is in my garage as a trophy,


My daily driver was a 4 door 1970-71 valiant 323" 4 speed with 4.10's (have the original 3.31's before went and raced it) gears . Do you want me to upload a picture of a crappy old sky blue 4 door ? Car weighed with me +/- 3800lbs at a landfill trailer scale. Dyno slips scans are in my photos. Over 2.2 seconds 60 ft, and 14.79 or something real close, low 90's IL summer Sunday. A late 78-79 Z28 350/350 auto was in the other lane, who was pulling similar numbers.
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Sure, a rod is a rod! Let's see some pics!
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Trying to hide the photos locations info. One thing in comon we keep , no antena showing. There Fast road cars, that women like to go out for a night in.

Friends 74 GTO poncho 350 (3.75 stroke) /TH400, matched stall, 3.73, headers, performer intake, comp cam, q-jet, T/A scoop.

Friends "red dragon" a 78 Trans am. Olds 403/th400 ,with Olds performer intake, Performer cam, Q jet, 3.08 rear, stock exhaust manifolds, 2200 stall, Hei, T/A scoop.

Freinds 80? vette. 350 4 speed , Edelbrock performer intake, summit 2.02/1.60" ALuminum heads, Comp's HE268 cam .454/.454" , DP holley 650, Hei , 3.47 gears IR , electric fans.

My old 71 chevelle Malibu. 350/TH350, Sold to friend , 1900 stall, 2.73 gear, headers , summit cam 1102 , summit headers , Hei , Performer intake, Holley 600 vac sec.
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Was'nt this same question asked sometime in the 1960's? What we now call muscle cars arrived on the scene about then and "killed" hot rods. You could run down to the dealer(take your pick), and buy a brand new whatever and beat all the home built stuff. Right off the showroom floor. Flatheads were dead. Jimmy six? No way. Theres more flatties and jimmies etc now on the street than the "golden age". Are new cars faster? Probably, by and large. Certainly more efficient. I have two wonderful late model cars a 1994 and a 2008. Great cars, no soul. I also have a 1940 chevy with a 350 chevy and a 4 barrel (no apologies). By comparision not efficient but way fun. Hell, just have fun with cars. Who knows in twenty years a 2000 Pontiac GP may be considered a cool old car.
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A hotrod is a hotrod,as long as YOU build it. So a hotrod vs a newer car is slower how. I think its mostly preference. Home > Library > Literature & Language > Dictionary also hot-rod ( hŏt ' rŏd ' ) n. Slang An automobile that has been rebuilt or modified to increase its speed and acceleration. hot-rod hot ' -rod ' v. hot rodder hot rodder or hot ' -rod ' der n.
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