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01-06-2009 11:53 PM
DarknessSpawned
Quote:
Originally Posted by v8 dan
I read somewhere that marine hose was the best to use because it is exposed to a lot of the outside elements, makes sense, but I wonder what the different in them are?
Awww dayum I seen some of that on ebay for a great price....
Was close to buying it, but wentthe braided route in the end.
01-06-2009 03:56 PM
v8 dan
running fuel lines like this

I read somewhere that marine hose was the best to use because it is exposed to a lot of the outside elements, makes sense, but I wonder what the different in them are?
01-06-2009 12:29 PM
ScoTFrenzel Recently I replaced rubber fuel lines on one of my rods, both standard pressure and high pressure line. The lines clearly said GATES on them, and were very cracked. As I began the removal, the high pressure line started spewing fuel from the residual pressure in the line. 28 psi system.
It has not been a lot of years since these lines were new because I installed them. The only lines that were even half way decent were the ones on the outlet of the fuel tank, which are the most isolated and sheltered.
This is a year around, nice weather, weekly driver, so no undue stress was placed on the rubber.

The new rubber lines appear to have a MUCH shorter service life than what we were used to only 10 years ago.

Funny, I have seen many lines on factory cars last 20-25 years.
3-4 year replacement intervals might be the new normal for aftermarket hose.

I suggest that everybody double check your rubber fuel lines. It might be later than you think.
01-05-2009 05:52 PM
DarknessSpawned
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim Rockford
I see you have a 88 s 10 , so i assume your keeping the stock F/P in the tank , and it was tbi so your only gonna be running 15-17 psi maxs so no real worries about high pressure FI fuel line.
Yes, It WAS a 2.8 motor.



Waiting on my 3/8 braided fuel hose to get here.
Got some goodyear fuel hose for the 5/16 lines in the back.

Both their burst ratings are a WHOLE lot higher than what my
in tank pump should be putting out from what a few people
have said including you.
01-01-2009 08:45 AM
tomslik
Quote:
Originally Posted by v8 dan
Hey if a guy wanted to run steel lines all the way would compression fittings work to connect them together,or flare fittings? Just a thought I am having a hard time finding good hose clamps that I feel comfortable with.
i double flare 'em or use a gm type fuel filter and use THAT as a splice.
i've never thought much about using a compression fitting but i HAVE on PS pressure hoses before with no problem and that's a bunsh more pressure than the fuel pump makes.

you'll need some sort of flex between the fuel tank and hard lines and between the engine and hard lines so you 'll need some rubber line....
12-31-2008 05:20 AM
v8 dan
fuel lines

Hey if a guy wanted to run steel lines all the way would compression fittings work to connect them together,or flare fittings? Just a thought I am having a hard time finding good hose clamps that I feel comfortable with.
12-31-2008 04:25 AM
tomslik
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChevyThunder
I disagree with this. The feed line is a definate yes. The return line however I have seen stock multiport fuel inject setups (TPI which has higher pressure than TBI for example) that have normal rubber on the return line.


really? name one.

The only way a return line will ever see 75 psi of pressure is if the pressure regulator goes nuts and the return line gets plugged/pinched at the same time.








I however would run as much steel line as possible since rubber lines get pinched easier and many tracks etc limit how much length of rubber you can use.


DO however use high pressure line and fittings from the pump output to the regulator.

USE NO RUBBER/NON HIGH PRESSURE FITTINGS ON THIS LINE.


not true.
if the return line gets plugged or pinched at the tank, you are going to see dead head pressure ALL THRU THE SYSTEM.
regulator will have NO effect on this.
think about it, that's ALL a regulator is is a restriction in the return line and yes, i HAVE seen it happen.
12-31-2008 03:37 AM
ChevyThunder
Quote:
Originally Posted by tomslik
here's something else.
use high pressure F.I.hose.
why?
if something should go wrong (blockage, regulator goes nuts,etc) the pump WILL make 75 psi of fuel pressure and will burst the regular fuel hose.
use it on BOTH the feed and return lines...
I disagree with this. The feed line is a definate yes. The return line however I have seen stock multiport fuel inject setups (TPI which has higher pressure than TBI for example) that have normal rubber on the return line.

The only way a return line will ever see 75 psi of pressure is if the pressure regulator goes nuts and the return line gets plugged/pinched at the same time.

I however would run as much steel line as possible since rubber lines get pinched easier and many tracks etc limit how much length of rubber you can use.


DO however use high pressure line and fittings from the pump output to the regulator.

USE NO RUBBER/NON HIGH PRESSURE FITTINGS ON THIS LINE.
12-31-2008 02:14 AM
DarknessSpawned
Quote:
Originally Posted by ljjjrome
hey darkness, could you describe or take a picture of where the stock fuel lines exit the frame? It's been a long time since I pulled them out, and I want to run the new lines through the stock exit.

Thanks,
Jerome

If you are standing in front of the truck looking over in the hood, Its coming out right there on the right side of cross member, If your round vapor can is still in there its a couple feet away from them. Real easy to spot though.
12-20-2008 03:50 PM
tomslik
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim Rockford
I see you have a 88 s 10 , so i assume your keeping the stock F/P in the tank , and it was tbi so your only gonna be running 15-17 psi maxs so no real worries about high pressure FI fuel line.

wrongo!
the REGULATED spec is 9-13 psi
the tbi's will make 35-40 psi deadheaded.
still enough to pop a hose.
still, it's NOT MY TRUCK!!!
i don't have a dog in this fight.
do what you want BUT if you think you're saving a buck....
and believe me, GM did NOT use regular fuel hose when they built it and if they could have saved a penny by going that way, they would have.
12-20-2008 12:39 PM
ljjjrome hey darkness, could you describe or take a picture of where the stock fuel lines exit the frame? It's been a long time since I pulled them out, and I want to run the new lines through the stock exit.

Thanks,
Jerome
12-20-2008 10:00 AM
Jim Rockford I see you have a 88 s 10 , so i assume your keeping the stock F/P in the tank , and it was tbi so your only gonna be running 15-17 psi maxs so no real worries about high pressure FI fuel line.
12-20-2008 06:43 AM
tomslik
Quote:
Originally Posted by DarknessSpawned
Im installing a sprinkler stystem in place of the windshield wiper
fluid that is set to go off when the temp gets to fire hot like the
kind thats right above your office space over der.



...how bout it.


yeah that might work,but don't use washer fluid.
that's flammable and yes, i know THAT by experience.

btw, my "office"doesn't have a fire system, just an extinguisher right next to my toolbox

seriously,use the high pressure stuff.
hate to see the post that says:"well my car burnt up"
12-20-2008 04:42 AM
Jake_Dragon My Vette has 3 regulators, one to drop the initial pressure down and then 2 right before the carbs to set the correct pressure for them. If the main regulator fails the second set should catch it.With the return line it should just circulate back to the tank if the first regulator fails open.
You could try something like that.
12-20-2008 03:17 AM
DarknessSpawned
Quote:
Originally Posted by tomslik
i'm plenty calm.
i'm not the guy running for the extinguisher
i doubt it would do anything to the carb from excessive fuel pressure.
the carb burning up in the fire might be an issue
..

Im installing a sprinkler stystem in place of the windshield wiper
fluid that is set to go off when the temp gets to fire hot like the
kind thats right above your office space over der.



...how bout it.
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