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02-09-2011 04:32 PM
cobalt327 How is the "lever plate" attached to the shaft? If it's a press fit, drive it downwards to the same level as the old assembly, and turn it to the right orientation if needed. MIG it into place afterwards. If it is held on by some other means, deal w/it appropriately.

02-09-2011 02:29 PM
half_fast notice the depth of the lever plates on the shafts. I need to use the lever on the right side but it does not go fully into the case. the rollpin will not line up and the tang does not catch on the valve body.
02-09-2011 12:53 AM
cobalt327
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Originally Posted by half_fast
I've taken both of them apart and came across a new problem:

not sure what to do with this now
OK, going by this, you cannot swap the correct lever into the trans that is replacing the original trans?

Sorry if I'm being too obvious here, but what is the difference that makes the first shift assembly incompatible w/the second trans?
02-08-2011 11:18 PM
half_fast nope. they are both darn near identical. neither of them have a W on the tailshaft, all the plugs are the same, filters the same, wires the same inside and out. they are obviously not made on the same day. by at this point I'm totally bewildered and I dont know what I'm gonna tell this guy... take it to the junkyard? I'm temped to jury-rig it with some aluminum and some boat parts in some sort of way. I wonder how they do it at ford garage?
02-08-2011 08:47 PM
cobalt327 The original didn't have a TV cable either?
02-08-2011 06:42 PM
half_fast I'm aware of that. these are both AODE, but not compatible
02-08-2011 05:53 PM
cobalt327
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Originally Posted by half_fast
...the only thing that tells these two apart is the lever... what gives?
The lever... AND no TV cable.
02-08-2011 05:22 PM
half_fast theres no W on either of them, both have the plain wires, still the only thing that tells these two apart is the lever... what gives?
02-05-2011 06:14 PM
JeffB The transmission you have now from the tag in the picture you posted shows it as a 4R trans which has better internals than the the one you want to replace it with.There is a ton of info available on www.clickclickracing.com You would be better served to rebuild the one you already have.
02-04-2011 11:19 PM
Crosley
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Originally Posted by half_fast
I'll check the wires in the morning. so if they are different, what does that make this replacement transmission? AFAIK the AOD has a TV cable, and this dont have one. what do I have here?

Did you read my previous posts?

You have an AODE ...... unless there is a W cast into the tail housing on the side. Then it is a 4R70W trans with the W cast in the tail housing.

These two trrans are not swappable because of the gear ratio differences. The vehicle computer will see the different gear ratio in lower gears and set trouble codes

02-04-2011 11:19 PM
cobalt327 Prolly an AODE.
02-04-2011 11:04 PM
half_fast I'll check the wires in the morning. so if they are different, what does that make this replacement transmission? AFAIK the AOD has a TV cable, and this dont have one. what do I have here?
02-04-2011 10:01 PM
Crosley as I posted there can be gear ratio differences if there is a W on the tail housing of one and not the other.

The internal wire harness can be different. Are both harnesses regular wire? Not wires in a hard formed plastic enclosure.

The plug in connector is the smae shape, the pin locations the same on these different trans designs. the wire setup quite different if the wire harness inside is in a hard formed plastic enclosure, not loose wires in a conduit type enclosure
02-04-2011 09:49 PM
half_fast I cannot find a difference, except for the selector lever. all the plugs are the same, same length, they have the same filters/pans.

old:




replacement:




the only difference thats obvious is the tag. what is going on here? if I cut off the tang from the old one and weld it into the new arm, would the rest of it work fine? I cant simply loosen the inside nut and rotate the other way, the clock position is different. what gives?
02-04-2011 06:21 AM
Crosley You have an AODE trans , should be a electrical connector on passenger side of an slightly odd shape.

Check the lever for fitment in the replacement trans. Should fit if the model year is near correct.

Check tail housing for a large W cast on the side of each trans. You can not replace a AODE with a trans that has a W (4R70W trans) on it or the other way. The vehicle computer will see a ratio difference. 4R70W has different ratios.
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