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04-03-2011 09:26 AM
deadbodyman A few weeks back a customer brought in some touch up work with the clear they used on the paint job,It was ppg's global clear I have heard a lot of good things about global...when I went to mix it the first thing I noticed was they print the mix ratio backwards .(glad I read the directions) second ,the reducer says thinner insted of reducer and third it was yellow....It sprayed ok but I'wont be buying any....the quality was better than omini'ss 161 in my opinion becuase I always leave a 1/2" in a mixing cup to cure out for a couple weeks to see what happens...the PPG did shrink quite a bit but didnt crack it was much yellower than the omini which was chrystal clear but the omini cracked every where and completely fell apart when I dumped the little (clear hockey puck on the table ...the PPG puck stayed intact...just like SPI's but SPI is chrystal clear and didnt shrink as much....
I'm no scientist with million dollar testing equipment just a 90 cent mixing cup but this is how I judge all the clears I use..
04-02-2011 10:27 PM
Lizer
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Originally Posted by deadbodyman
the mix ratio is 1;1 so you get two sprayable gallons for around 200.00 some guys might call that "cheap steet" or "crap clear" I call it a great deal...I've used it over many bases top line and bottom line.
In a painting class I was in we received gallons upon gallons of some cheeeeap donated clear (I don't even know who the company was). When you poured it out it was so yellow it actually looked like beer. Hence the term we gave it, 'beer clear.'
04-01-2011 11:44 AM
deadbodyman
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Originally Posted by jeremyb

good product is good product....no matter the price. yea the price of spi draws you into it, but once you use it, it doesn't even matter. i'd pay the same price as sikkens for the spi if thats what barry wanted to charge.
Shhhhhh
Barry might take up golfing in Caribbeans and 1000.00 massages complete with manicures....just like the big wigs...guess whos gonna pay for those nice clean nails?????
04-01-2011 06:11 AM
Hotbo
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Originally Posted by HVAC Phil
And you make this statement based on what? Have you personally used the Omni products? I painted my work van 5 years ago with Omni, sits outside everyday, driven in winter weather, paint still looks as good as the day it was applied. If you had problems, must have been application.

The original Omni basecoats sucked, coverage was poor.The "plus" basecoats cover just as well as the DBC, just cost half the price.
LOL! i said i have used both read my statement...

i have used gallons and i mean gallons of Omni junk clears(MC161 and 270 production clear.)

i have used Omni and Omni plus bases and in no way can they compare to anything in Deltron series bases.


you seem to already have your mind made up since your van looks good still.


so i say carry on with what you think is good...


and just for the record i never had a single problem.Junk is junk no matter how much you rub on it and think its good!

Travis.
04-01-2011 05:25 AM
jeremyb what guys forget is, 5-6 years ago that $200 was about the same was what the other majors were back then. that's how much it has gone up.... i remember when sikkens was $50 a sprayable quart for clear....and that was retail.

good product is good product....no matter the price. yea the price of spi draws you into it, but once you use it, it doesn't even matter. i'd pay the same price as sikkens for the spi if thats what barry wanted to charge.
04-01-2011 04:14 AM
deadbodyman the mix ratio is 1;1 so you get two sprayable gallons for around 200.00 some guys might call that "cheap steet" or "crap clear" I call it a great deal...I've used it over many bases top line and bottom line.
04-01-2011 03:56 AM
HVAC Phil
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Originally Posted by deadbodyman
I think the reason a lot of guys dont like the Nason is because it takes a certain amount of skill to make it look as good as the high dollar base plus they work at a shop that buys it for them.
I havent used the omini plus base but Spi "IS" a low dollar clear it just looks and sprays like the high dollar stuff and it'll work just fine over your base ,If you like the 161 your really gonna love the Universal clear.
Thats the info i was looking for. Yeah i know the high dollar bases lay down easier, but i've never had a problem with the omni.
Thanks alot DB, i will purchase the SPI universal clear.
04-01-2011 03:29 AM
deadbodyman I think the reason a lot of guys dont like the Nason is because it takes a certain amount of skill to make it look as good as the high dollar base plus they work at a shop that buys it for them.
I havent used the omini plus base but Spi "IS" a low dollar clear it just looks and sprays like the high dollar stuff and it'll work just fine over your base ,If you like the 161 your really gonna love the Universal clear.
04-01-2011 01:44 AM
HVAC Phil
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Originally Posted by Hotbo
Omni is like Nason belongs on yard ornaments,and yes i have used both


UV clear is wonderful,but why would you want to use it over Junk base is beyond me,keep using junk clear and be Happy...


Just sayin Travis...
And you make this statement based on what? Have you personally used the Omni products? I painted my work van 5 years ago with Omni, sits outside everyday, driven in winter weather, paint still looks as good as the day it was applied. If you had problems, must have been application.

The original Omni basecoats sucked, coverage was poor.The "plus" basecoats cover just as well as the DBC, just cost half the price.
03-31-2011 07:52 PM
Hotbo Omni is like Nason belongs on yard ornaments,and yes i have used both


UV clear is wonderful,but why would you want to use it over Junk base is beyond me,keep using junk clear and be Happy...


Just sayin Travis...
03-31-2011 07:15 PM
jeremyb it is just a slower curing, softer clear which is what you want on a restoration or show quality job. the softer the clear the more flexible it is and the more chip resistant it is. you can fix a surface scratch or flaw much easer than you can fix a chip from a harder clear.

i've sanded and buffed universal with slow activator in the summer, months after spraying and still did it with ease. even after full cure i believe it still sands and buffs better than other high dollar clears.
03-31-2011 07:12 PM
HVAC Phil
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Originally Posted by JohnnyK81
Why does the SPI clear remain easy to buff? Should it not harden completely after awhile?
From everything i've read, many have said it cuts/buffs easy in 2 days, weeks or months even though it has hardened.
03-31-2011 06:06 PM
JohnnyK81 Why does the SPI clear remain easy to buff? Should it not harden completely after awhile?
03-31-2011 04:44 PM
HVAC Phil I'm really not looking for it to hold up any better, as these will both be cars removed from dailey use, weather. They will only be driven, weekends, shows, nice days, etc.

I really like the fact that i can wait to sand/buff the SPI clear as time allows for me, time is not always on my side. The Omni clear i have used held up great, polished nice, held great shine....but, it is tough to sand after a week or two has gone by.
03-31-2011 03:27 PM
jeremyb i'm sure it will be fine, but putting a superior clear over an inferior basecoat doesn't not make the basecoat last or hold up any better.
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