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Yesterday 10:28 PM
MARTINSR I went with Nick to a local show tonight. Ran into a few old friends and met up with Steve and his grandson, is that little guy cute or what!

Check out the 26 Chevy, spoke with that guy a bunch, very cool car! The narrowed VW is interesting to say the least. I have a photo of this car, the last time I saw it at the Fremont Drag Strip at a Volkswagen Nationals event 30 years ago.


Brian
Yesterday 07:53 PM
John long I had a really good day today.........Excited to get it back home and in the basement.

John

Yesterday 06:27 PM
idrivejunk Almost forgetted... that stuff on the 33 fenders I was so curious about....

Fellow bodyman walks up and says "Z-Chrome". I did a search, scratched my chin and went hmmm. You can wipe or spray it. Very interesting.
Yesterday 05:39 PM
idrivejunk I'll just drop a couple pics here then put some more on the body forum thread about this shortly. Pretty much ignored all the advice I had been given.

Flipped that patch over and the backside looked like this:



So I scraped, sanded, and wiped converter on-



...and sanded again. Look closely-



Wanna see it from the top? Pics over yonder, shortly:

http://www.hotrodders.com/forum/cama...pe-447609.html
Yesterday 11:36 AM
MARTINSR Good story there BB, funny stuff.

When I chopped the top on my truck as a kid I cut plexiglass for the quarter windows. To shape them I put them in the oven then, laying in the original glass.

But I was brilliant remember, so I knew that it would be too tight a bend if it was bent to fit the inside, so I put a pack of matches (no matches in it) laying in the bottom of the glass so the plexiglass would stop bending before going to the bottom.

The pack of matches height was perfect after much calculations with the radius of the curve, thickness of the glass, thickness of the plexiglass, amount shortened, the spelling of supercalafragalisticexpialadoshus and other mathematical equations.

It worked perfectly except that the glass was a little too soft and the pack of matches put dents in the plexiglass! They stayed as I had been given the plexiglass and had no idea where you could even buy any.

Wish I had photos of that.

Brian
Yesterday 10:28 AM
boothboy Quick side story concerning sand and hidden "cat nuggets"

Years ago while I was keeping us all safe from communism for Uncle Sam, my college going, married buddy was rebuilding a WWll Airplane (should have been studying and doing marriage stuff if you ask me!).
One day he and his buddy, a guy named Jim Lasley, (some of you old guys have seen Lasley before. Remember the guy who flew the plane through the barn for the old TV show "You Asked For It"? That was Lasley.)
Anyhow back to our story. Jim and my friend Barry were heating a bucket of sand in the stove to use to bend some plexiglass for the plane. After a while they came back into Jim's house to retrieve the sand only to discover a horribly foul smell and a large bilious Green Cloud. Apparently one should not overcook cat turds.

Now to the funny part.

A while later after Jim had opened every window and door to rid the house of the stomach turning stench, Jim's wife returns home.
Upon entering the house she sniffs the air and exclaims with glee in her voice, "Something smells good! What are we having for dinner?"

It would seem that cooking was not one of Jim's wife's specialities.

BB
Yesterday 06:57 AM
deadbodyman A contour template goes from right to left the full width of the roof and fits tight to the contour. As you slide it back and forth it'll tell you if the patch is flattening or too proud by either showing a gap or rocking as it goes over the patch. Making one is fairly ez and well worth the time ,all you need is a compass (for drawing circles) and a band saw or a jig saw. You basicly set a piece of wood on the roof and slide the compass over the roof drawing the roofs profile onto the wood (scribing), then cut out the line and test fit,it should be very close, then you sand the wood until the wood fits tight to the roof. Now you have an exact profile of the roof. set your patch in the hole and shim it up until its flush with the roof in a few spots,put your shims between the patch and the flange. Put one tack in the middle ,one in front and one in back to hold the patch in place. grind the tack flush so the template will slide back and forth. check the contour as you tack and grind.
If you take the flange out you'll need to make a brace or two for support but I think I'd leave the flange in to save some money on labor.
This is a sure way to not have a flat spot or a big lump when your done and it'll need hardly any filler.
Yesterday 06:22 AM
idrivejunk
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Originally Posted by deadbodyman View Post
I can offer a trick to make the job less frustrating right from the get go. Have you ever made or used a contour template?
We have one but it's only about a foot long and is busted. I have often used cardboard and bent rods to check as I go.
Yesterday 06:18 AM
idrivejunk
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From One More Time in the other thread... "Anyway just scribe that piece you have to fit the hole and then tack it in."

I think we all "assumed" you were going to leave the existing frame and work with that ?? I have no experience with this, so I'll sit by my dish and watch...
Yes, I had hoped for more specific guidance. I believe leaving the gutter in place would create enough contrast in flexibility as to cause cracking later. The guy who started the job "has done several" and thought leaving anything up there was weird to even ask about. "Fill roof" were our only instructions.

Where the leaded seam intersects it going to be a main concern for me since an extra layer comes into play for about an inch in each side. Wish me luck!
Yesterday 06:13 AM
deadbodyman I can offer a trick to make the job less frustrating right from the get go. Have you ever made or used a contour template?
Yesterday 06:07 AM
idrivejunk
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How crazy would it be to weld that roof skin in THEN cut out that flange? I'd be afraid of warping it all by cutting the flange first.
That thought crossed my mind too.
Yesterday 06:04 AM
deadbodyman How crazy would it be to weld that roof skin in THEN cut out that flange? I'd be afraid of warping it all by cutting the flange first.
Yesterday 06:02 AM
Too Many Projects
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I asked around, gave everyone plenty of opportunity to voice opinions but there were none so I went ahead. The closest thing to advice I could find indicated nothing to the contrary. It seems like it has enough crown to hold itself up. The idea now is to do it then see if it needs support and go from there. Headliner was of course one of my first questions but again, no answers. I do have ideas though. I would only leave the flange to install a removable panel. Otherwise it could weigh down the skin. It would also prevent planishing the welded seam.
From One More Time in the other thread... "Anyway just scribe that piece you have to fit the hole and then tack it in."

I think we all "assumed" you were going to leave the existing frame and work with that ?? I have no experience with this, so I'll sit by my dish and watch...
Yesterday 05:49 AM
idrivejunk I asked around, gave everyone plenty of opportunity to voice opinions but there were none so I went ahead. The closest thing to advice I could find indicated nothing to the contrary. It seems like it has enough crown to hold itself up. The idea now is to do it then see if it needs support and go from there. Headliner was of course one of my first questions but again, no answers. I do have ideas though. I would only leave the flange to install a removable panel. Otherwise it could weigh down the skin. It would also prevent planishing the welded seam.
Yesterday 04:21 AM
Too Many Projects I'm wondering why you are removing the recess on the roof ? I figured the patch would lay right in there. Seems like all the strength will be gone and you will need to fab supports now.

I guess with that gone, it will be lighter up there and easier to work with for a head liner ?

Just wondering out loud. It surprised me to see that..
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