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10-16-2012 06:00 AM
cdminter59
ZZ4 camshaft

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Originally Posted by mafiacustomz View Post
So what will it do to my car no gains in hp or sound and no power at the wheels.

On the other hand i will get alot better sound some power and more hp.

Its not making any sence to me how a bigger cam with 3 different seperation angle is going to make that much of a difference.

Yes i will need to add more fuel which a 350 chip will give easy but it will run and sound better thin befor.
Here is an article on understanding Lobe Separation Angle maybe it will give you more understanding of changing lsa. Also adding a larger duration cam puts the basic operating range in higher rpms. This is the reason for the torque converter and rear gear change. The stock torque converter can put a lot of load on the engine and kill vac at idle. TBI is a "speed density" system, meaning no mass air flow sensor, and meaning programing assumptions are made about the operating conditions such that if you change any of them (like exhaust flow, engine displacement, cam duration, etc.), you need to reprogram the assumptions in the computer.
10-15-2012 05:29 PM
mafiacustomz well you havnt helped at all so stop posting on here.
10-15-2012 01:01 PM
techinspector1
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Originally Posted by mafiacustomz View Post
This is good and all but can you move it to another post im trying to work on getting my cam and valve springs.
F-BIRD'88 has contributed his time and very valuable expertise in posts 2, 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 12, 14, 17, 18, 19, 21, 23, 24, 28, 29, 38, 39 and 42. If you don't get it by now, I don't see much hope for you.
10-15-2012 12:46 PM
mafiacustomz This is good and all but can you move it to another post im trying to work on getting my cam and valve springs.
10-15-2012 12:44 PM
ap72
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Originally Posted by techinspector1 View Post
As is usual for you, you're missing the whole point. You and mafiacustomz are taking an irresponsible and childish view of what I'm trying to get across.

Most of those on this board, including you, were not alive in 1970. So you have not lived through the horror of breathing air from Los Angeles or any other population center in America back then. People died from breathing it. People got sick from breathing it. Something had to be done, so the Congress began to inact laws and regulations to clean up the air. It's not like it was done for some special interest group or groups, everyone had to breathe the same air. These photos will give you an idea of what we had to deal with.....
https://www.google.com/search?q=phot...w=1248&bih=665

Here's a summary of the Clean Air Act of 1970, the first of many changes to the law to help clean the air that all of us must breathe.....
Summary of the Clean Air Act | Laws and Regulations | US EPA

Now, along comes AP72 and mafiacustomz with their pizzy little attitudes, thinking that these laws don't apply to them. Well, they do apply to you the same as they apply to every other person who lives in this country.

What I'm trying to get across is that if EVERYONE obeyed all the laws, we would have no need for police, courts, jails, prisons and all those God-awful attorneys suckin' the money out of our wallets and life would be wonderful, just like God intended it to be in the first place.

You need look no further than the 10 Commandments. It's all right there, how to conduct yourself without making waves for others. But you two pick and choose which laws you think you should obey.

And that's what's wrong with America.
You really think politicians know anything about science and pollutions when they write laws? You're citing EPA regulations to a guy who's done a LOT more environmental work than probably anyone else on this board. I can tell you first hand that while the clean air and water laws were a good thing at first they are WAY out of hand.

Instead of addressing my issue- namely that the laws themselves carry little to no merit- you just leave it up to politicians to make your decisions and refute any need for merit.

THAT is the problem with America- people are either too dumb or lazy to think for themselves and insist that someone else take care of them.
10-15-2012 12:17 PM
techinspector1
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Originally Posted by ap72 View Post
Really? You've said some pretty outlandish crap before but this?

Everyone that knows anything about auto emissions laws knows they're a crock of ****. The fact that by breaking a lot of them you can actually lower your ghg emissions says how backwards they are.

Show me a CO2e/mile law and maybe we can start talking about justifiable laws. In someways breaking them can be the patriotic thing to do.
As is usual for you, you're missing the whole point. You and mafiacustomz are taking an irresponsible and childish view of what I'm trying to get across.

Most of those on this board, including you, were not alive in 1970. So you have not lived through the horror of breathing air from Los Angeles or any other population center in America back then. People died from breathing it. People got sick from breathing it. Something had to be done, so the Congress began to inact laws and regulations to clean up the air. It's not like it was done for some special interest group or groups, everyone had to breathe the same air. These photos will give you an idea of what we had to deal with.....
https://www.google.com/search?q=phot...w=1248&bih=665

Here's a summary of the Clean Air Act of 1970, the first of many changes to the law to help clean the air that all of us must breathe.....
Summary of the Clean Air Act | Laws and Regulations | US EPA

Now, along comes AP72 and mafiacustomz with their pizzy little attitudes, thinking that these laws don't apply to them. Well, they do apply to you the same as they apply to every other person who lives in this country.

What I'm trying to get across is that if EVERYONE obeyed all the laws, we would have no need for police, courts, jails, prisons and all those God-awful attorneys suckin' the money out of our wallets and life would be wonderful, just like God intended it to be in the first place.

You need look no further than the 10 Commandments. It's all right there, how to conduct yourself without making waves for others. But you two pick and choose which laws you think you should obey.

And that's what's wrong with America.
10-15-2012 11:21 AM
ap72
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Originally Posted by techinspector1 View Post
That's what's wrong with America.
Really? You've said some pretty outlandish crap before but this?

Everyone that knows anything about auto emissions laws knows they're a crock of ****. The fact that by breaking a lot of them you can actually lower your ghg emissions says how backwards they are.

Show me a CO2e/mile law and maybe we can start talking about justifiable laws. In someways breaking them can be the patriotic thing to do.
10-15-2012 10:52 AM
mafiacustomz how is that i dont have a 80's car its a 91 LOL
10-15-2012 08:49 AM
AutoGear Its guys like this that give guys like me with an 80s car a bad rap... *sigh*
10-14-2012 11:51 PM
mafiacustomz I know the ramjet is EFI but summit which has the cam says its not computer controlled i like the cam for $175 its sweet. If you say that cam will work thats what i will get and i would like to know what size valve springs i need and would a port and polish be a good idea.
10-14-2012 10:36 PM
F-BIRD'88
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Originally Posted by mafiacustomz View Post
i dont have them laws where i live they dont care in ky ive looked it up.

that cam 14097395 isnt computer controlled i thought it had to be.
Don't know what you are talking about.
The motor that that cam is from, has EFI
350 "RamJet" crate motor.
10-14-2012 10:01 PM
mafiacustomz i dont have them laws where i live they dont care in ky ive looked it up.

that cam 14097395 isnt computer controlled i thought it had to be.
10-14-2012 09:56 PM
techinspector1
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Originally Posted by mafiacustomz View Post
No thats what right with america freedom of choice my car runs alot cleaner thin most where i live. I keep my caprice tip top hot plugs good gas 289k on motor runs like a champ. I guess if you dont like that get out of the usa.
It's not about how clean your motor runs, it's about breaking the law. That makes you part of what's wrong with America. Nobody said that you have the freedom of choice to obey some laws and scoff at other laws that don't fit your lifestyle.

Moderators, don't get alarmed, I'm done on this thread.
10-14-2012 09:46 PM
F-BIRD'88 Try this "RamJet" Camshaft
GM part number 14097395 196 206 @.050 .431-.451 109 LSA

Some spec info
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=255659
10-14-2012 09:40 PM
F-BIRD'88
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Originally Posted by mafiacustomz View Post
I dont care about emissions controls the only thin i still use on my car is the o2 sensor i already took off my smog pump and i dont have a MAF and my car runs great.

I guess i need to ask this now is their any bigger cam that will work with my stock computer if i have to do valve springs thats no big deal that is in a OE motor.

My stock cam is 178/194 @ .050, .350"/.385", 109* lobe seperation 112
That cam is so small you can yank it right out without removing the lifters.
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