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12-21-2012 06:25 PM
496CHEVY3100 Check filter for blockage ,i have had them to plug during break in because of oil additaves ,cam lube /compcam zinc addative ,lt metal particles from cam break in ,hope this cures your problem also
12-18-2012 08:08 PM
bygddy
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Originally Posted by opelitis5 View Post
Good afternoon!! Lotsa good advice for you above this post. My take on this is for you to find a great engine builder as close to you as possible to set you up from start to finish to do exactly what you are after. Get it in writing if possible inorder to stave off any possible future problems.
If'n you "spread the work out" over a few places, none of them will step up and do you right when things go wrong.. Keep it all under one roof with the best builder as close as possible to you in the Ottawa area. Do your homework and ask, Google, and whatever else you have to do to ensure you a goin' down the right path. Believe there is one in the Monkland area who came in the Top 5 or Top 10 in the U.S. engine builder's challenge this year. Don't remember his name from the Hot Rod magazine but ...
T.
Yah but that sounds expensive, and not much fun.....I absolutely love playing with motors, and have zero issue asembling stuff....I hate wiring, no idea how to do body and paint, but the junk I have screwed together has so far proven to be reasonably quick and dead reliable....and really, that's the best feeling ever.
12-18-2012 08:04 PM
bygddy
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Originally Posted by killeratrod View Post
I have never seen your vette. Would love to see what you traded for that sweet panel !!
My vette was......lets say cosmetically challenged.....needed a rad support, headlight support bar, paint, interior, some brake work, bird cage......it was quick for what it was, real quick actually, and took all the abuse I could throw at it. I loved it, and will likely miss it come summer time, the panel is neat, but its a big cumbersom whale, and its sloooooow.....don't know if I will keep it or not yet, been through 5 cars in 3 summers so clearly I have no loyalty and little intelligence....and the fact that its pro street means unless it goes like 10's its always going to be a poser car lol....I dunno, if i can get it to run a 12 anything, and be reliable, without spending a fortune the I will likely hang onto it. Getting a heater for my garage for Christmas, and then following some f-bird advice with some of my own opinions will start ordering parts and maybe that will get me enthused to do something with it over the winter.
12-17-2012 02:34 PM
killeratrod I have never seen your vette. Would love to see what you traded for that sweet panel !!
12-17-2012 11:55 AM
opelitis5 Good afternoon!! Lotsa good advice for you above this post. My take on this is for you to find a great engine builder as close to you as possible to set you up from start to finish to do exactly what you are after. Get it in writing if possible inorder to stave off any possible future problems.
If'n you "spread the work out" over a few places, none of them will step up and do you right when things go wrong.. Keep it all under one roof with the best builder as close as possible to you in the Ottawa area. Do your homework and ask, Google, and whatever else you have to do to ensure you a goin' down the right path. Believe there is one in the Monkland area who came in the Top 5 or Top 10 in the U.S. engine builder's challenge this year. Don't remember his name from the Hot Rod magazine but ...
T.
12-14-2012 01:22 PM
F-BIRD'88 Dart SHP 200 VS Profiler 195 64 USA head.

The Profiler heads flow more out of the box and make more dyno tested power and torque, out of the box.
There is a very good thread on this subject on the Yellow bullet forum.

They both does good but the Profilers are the nicer head in out of the box form.

As all as cast cylinder heads will, the Darts got better (flow and power) once ported.

The Profiler heads gets my big thumbs up.
12-14-2012 12:02 PM
F-BIRD'88 This is what someone who does heads has to say about the Dart SHP heads he worked on.
Flow numbers included.
These headss are not the same as a Premium Dart Pro 1/ Platinum cylinder head.
They are based on the older obsolete Dart ports.
The poster indicates that the Valve job apears to be quite sunk in the chamber to get a larger chamber volume
(72cc) This deso tend to kill flow. I noticed this on the Dart 180's I have here. Very lame flow for a 180cc port
and deep valve job.

Dart SBC SHP heads • Speed Talk
12-12-2012 09:54 PM
F-BIRD'88 You will need to assemble/mock this up and check pushrod length with any of these head/cam combos.
Its all about the details.
12-12-2012 09:30 PM
F-BIRD'88 My Professional Products Crosswind manifold works very well (vortec version)

Don't be a wimp. Get the solid lifter Voodoo. Real men set their own valve lash.

(these tight lash street cams rock.) set the lash cold .004" tighter than the hot lash spec
set once. cold, and forget all summer.

Scorpion/(summit) 1.6 aluminum roller rockers
The Brodix IK200 is a really really very good head too. The summit 200cc aluminum head is identical.
best $100 you will save
12-12-2012 09:23 PM
bygddy
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Originally Posted by F-BIRD'88 View Post
Does this speed shop have Brodix heads?
Something to consider if you are going to buy speed parts
Ogdensburg, New York (serving Ottawa and Brockville area) | Ship to the Border

Lunati 60141
These cams need good springs Usually a "K2" spring package.
New Lunati Part number 30120741
Lunati Cam grind number CS V8 V276S10

"Jegs" Profiler "USA head"
JEGS Performance Products 514032 JEGS Small Block Chevy Cylinder Heads
Yah, he says he can get pretty much anything at roughly the same price as summit or jegs. I was looking at the IK200 as well....just haven't had time to read up on them much. I would be doing some minor port clean up and some pushrod pinch clean up regardless of which heads. I currently have a perfomer RPM but did promise it in the trade with the vette. So may have to find another, the professional products version seems popular, and I do have the 750DP still. Currently has long tubes to 3" collectors, will then be 3" back to 10 series flowmasters then out in front of the rear tires, one bend only and its a 45. Gonna go check out the numbers on the Lunati 60141 you mentioned.
And I priced the shp heads, a lunati voodoo hyd with lifters, and the rpm intake, he quoted me 1520 taxes in.
12-12-2012 09:21 PM
F-BIRD'88 Using the 1094 gasket and aluminum heads.
this can work but you must use a high quality antifreeze coolant.
A bolt retorque is required. Most of these aftermarket aluminum heads require special longer SBC head bolts with washers.
(ARP)
Be sure to budget for this.

There is a good .026" composite gasket too.
12-12-2012 08:46 PM
F-BIRD'88 Does this speed shop have Brodix heads?
Something to consider if you are going to buy speed parts
http://shiptotheborder.com/ogdensbur...rockville-area

http://www.jegs.com/i/Lunati/638/60141/10002/-1
These cams need good springs Usually a "K2" spring package.
New Lunati Part number 30120741
Lunati Cam grind number CS V8 V276S10

"Jegs" Profiler "USA head"
http://www.jegs.com/i/JEGS-Performan...ductId=1593012
12-12-2012 08:44 PM
F-BIRD'88 The Edelbrock Performer RPM Dual Quad air gap induction system would be cool on this truck.
(custom tuned Edelbrock 750carbs and carb spacers)
12-12-2012 08:20 PM
F-BIRD'88 Wait until you have the heads etc. One of the biggest mistakes people make is rushing out and buying a cam
and ending up with the wrong cam for the job. The cam choice is a critical element.
It sets the whole nature of the engine. and how the car "drives".

The Lunati street 401A3LUN solid cam is still a good overall choice for where you're headed.
Its a nice "street cam"
Something in that range is good. possibley with more lift or rocker ratio with the dart heads.
If that is your head choice then they will benefit form some port cleanup as all as cast heads do.
possible Crane F-280-2 cam #114681 (or a custom grind variation of it)
Crane F244/3454-2S-6 possibe single pattern version (crane custom grind)
Lunati solid Voodoo #60141 ( or Lunati custom grind variation)
With what you got (3000 stall) and the purpose I would not go bigger than these cams.
All need a good exhaust system.
use a performer RPM and 750carb

A street tunnel ram + eddy carbs can still work.

These Dart heads come with different spring packages.
"K1 K2 etc" K1 is usually the stock entry level diameter "hyd cam" springs.
Get the spring package that matches your cam choice.

A Voodoo Solid street roller would be cool. Lunati #60132
12-12-2012 07:45 PM
bygddy
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Originally Posted by F-BIRD'88 View Post
Buying parts that are for sale.

you need to try to avoid falling into the trap of collecting a bunch of stuff because it is easy or avaiable
and then adjusting your plan to suite the the parts.
You will end up with a much better result for the money spent by developing a good build plan
and then buy the parts that fit the plan. Even if that means waiting.
The local used-for sale Kijiji/craigslist part that does not fit your plan is not a good deal.

EG: buying a 3000 stall converter because it was for sale, even thou you wanted a more radical motor ( big cam duration/tunnel ram) that needs a converter with a higher stall.
Same with gears.
Heads aernt a "sale" item, speed shop in Montreal, dart SHP 200, Spent alot of reading time on the bullet for some real world testing and for the cash they seem to be the real deal. 465$ each, assembled, all American parts.....converter, yes....was a sale item off kijiji, but 2800-3200 is kinda where I wanted to be anyways, as for gear, I haven't bought yet, but was liking where a 456 puts me rpm wise at 100kph.....which for the amount of commuting I do is important. I get its a compromise, and nothing is free. Ultimately i am like anyone else, I need to be able to drive it, and am more then willing to deal with rpm, noise, heat, etc as long as it fits a reasonable budget, and is a brutal as i can get based on the above info....if I could afford it I would have more head, more cam, more gear, .....but I can't, so i want as much as i can afford lol. Soooo......still wanna help me pick a cam based on these heads, converter and gear? Lol
Dave
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