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12-16-2012 08:57 AM
69 widetrack Yes my machine is the R/W/B, I was fortunate enough to get NOS decals for it and have an extra set...just in case, if anything happened it would be next to impossible to replace. my 68 Rebel, was quite a deal, I saw and add in the local news paper for it and it read, "for sale, 68 Rebel, new 4 speed transmission, 343, running, $800.00." I figured the 4 speed alone would be great and I could make up the rest with a running 343...well I went and looked at the car and the body, although the original paint (blue) was faded, was mint, same with the interior. I didn't argue, I paid the guy, drove it home and kept the car. I didn't do a frame off on it, it would have been nice but,really didn't need it. Just did the paint, cleaned up the interior and rebuilt the front end. One of my better deals...except my 69 AMX...I'll never part with that one.

Your right about the after 1970 AMC's...again...except the Gremlin. I loved the Gremlin because it was so easy to drop whatever AMC, V8 you wanted in them, and they are so ugly, they look good...it's almost like AMC was building a car, ran out of resources and cut 2 feet off the back to save money...it was like a V8 Vega with 1/10 the work. My Gremlin now has a 1971 AMC 401 in it and is a blast to drive. Does it go fast in the 1/4 mile? NO...I haven't done any suspension work to it, but the best burnouts you can imagine.

I still would love to get a SC/Scrambler, I think it would make my AMC collection complete, for me anyway. I'm sure someday I'll either be able to afford the asking price for a good one or find one that's rebuildable for a decent price. When I got my Machine decal kits, I also got a NOS Scrambler kit complete.
12-15-2012 08:58 PM
mr4speed Sounds like quite a collection you have there. That Machine you have is it R/W/B paint or a color? Always liked those cars, the guy that bought my scrambler, his brother who I know quite well has a nice collection of rare AMC muscle cars and has a real nice machine. I am with you on the 71 up big hump fender javs and amx's. The last one as far as I am concerned was the 70 AMX. Not too many people care for the amc's and I think the AMX was never really recognized for the great muscle car it really was and could hold its own against any of the other big motored muscle cars of it's day. Today the scrambler is mostly sought after for it's rarity, as they only built 1512 of them. Now because all the wealthy collectors are getting into this the prices are out of reach. When I bought mine back in 1987 I did not buy it because of it's rarity and the fact that some day it would be a collectors item, I bought it because I really liked the car a lot and thought it was the wildest paint sheme to ever come from the factory. I drove the car hard, the way they used to be driven even after I finished the restoration back in 1990. Today if you were to take a ride in one of these cars, it would not be anything like it was back then by any means, for the fear of something happening to this "valuable" piece of history.
12-15-2012 07:41 PM
69 widetrack I guess I should mention that I have several pre 71 Javelins, but thy aren't done yet, I've put them on the back burner for now but, they will get done. They should be counted in my AMC stable, but I don't consider them as a true part of the collection until the're done.

Not a big fan of the 1971 and up AMC's (as a rule, except the Gremlin), I call the Javelin's and the AMX's humpsters, because of the humps over the front and rear wheels. Some people like them, I don't.
12-15-2012 07:30 PM
69 widetrack I've been into all muscle cars but AMC was one that I fell in love with in 1970. The AMX was into it's 3rd year and I was looking for my first real car...My neighbor was selling his 290 68 AMX and I always loved the looks, with a 2 seater, I wouldn't be able to have a bunch of rowdy buddies in the car and it was just different. He wanted a whopping $1,400 for the car and all I had saves up was about $1,200. So I ended up with a 67 Firebird...it was great had it for years and did paint body and engine work. Still loved AMC, so in 1990 I was at an estate sale and picked up my first AMC, I finally got a 69 AMX 390 4 speed group 19 package with about 40,000 miles for $1,750. Still have the car and have added the 68 and 70 to the AMX collection as well as a 68 343 4 speed Rebel, 70 Machine, and a 71 Gremlin. The pride of the AMC part of my collection is the 69 AMX....it's almost to clean and original to drive. The last time I drove it I lost a fan belt and it took me a while to find a NOS belt to replace it. So now I'm collecting as much NOS stuff that I can find for my AMC's

I always wanted the 69 SC/Scrambler but a good one is hard to find and when I have found one, well for some reason (I know they only made about 1,500 of them) they are priced real high. Oh well, 1 day I'll get lucky and get that barn find.
12-15-2012 05:40 PM
mr4speed Always said the best paintjobs are all in the blocking and buffing skills, period. You could put a bad paint job on good prep work and possibly salvage it as long as there is enough material to sand into for buffing. But if the prep on the blocking end of it is bad (ripples) then I don't care how good you can paint or buff the end result will still look bad. I am probably my own worst enemy with being critical on the blocking end of it, and wont stop until it is right and ready to spray. Then the work begins all over again when it's time to start wet sanding and buffing, this is where all the hard work really pays off. By the way Ray, I have had a few AMC muscle cars myself. Started off with the 304 powered gremlin X's, then picked up a hurst sc/rambler, then a 69 AMX with the 390 go pak and 4 speed. Unfortunately had to sell the sc/rambler a few years back (thanks to this economy). The AMX was sold back in 97, and the gremlins had a lot of fun with swapping out the bigger 343 and 360's. How long have you been into the AMC's?
12-14-2012 01:32 PM
69 widetrack Right, Right and did I mention that you where Right...Prep is the major part on any paint job...With out good prep, there is no reason to paint a vehicle...I won't...I used to send vehicles back to the prep line when I worked flat rate and even when I worked straight time. People do get excited and the laymen will call poor prep work a bad paint job...and in a way I guess their right...it shouldn't have been painted.

Now that I'm in a position to work on the vehicles I want to work on and when I want to work on them...I insist I do all my own prep work...That way I know that it's done to the standards I want...It used to take me months to train a good prep person and a good prepper is way under rated and deserves to get paid in the same range as a good painter...they go hand in hand.

Ray
12-14-2012 01:20 PM
tech69
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I think of it this way, a good painter can make mid grade paint look good, a bad painter can't make high end paint look good.
don't forget the prepper. I was hurting for money one time and did the body and prep on this car, the painter was blown away by it. Should have seen his work he did by himself-lol. Half of what people glamour over is the bodywork/prep and buffing. I've seen cars get high reviews with slightly mottled paint, mismatched parts, but with good prepping. If I want to know about the painter I put a lot of emphasis on masking, how the jambs look, what his eyes can catch, and how he game plans. The foundation is good spraying.
12-14-2012 05:46 AM
deadbodyman I knew an old guy that was a heavy equipment operator that had an old P/U with a rotted out floor...One day when the cement truck had poured a footing for a bridge he decided while he was sitting around that he would get some of that mesh and fix that hole, then he scraped up some cement that fell on the ground and threw that over the mesh ....worked like a champ he said, until a coulpe months later.....He was driving down the highway and a chunk of it fell out and blew his tire when he ran over it....Funny ,yes but it could have killed him...or worse someone else....
12-11-2012 10:14 PM
diggers Had an old junk ranger used great stuff on the bed sides above the wheels on bothsides where rotted out duraglassed over that then filler.Lasted almost three years lol
12-11-2012 11:07 AM
painted jester How about the old news articles from the papers stuck in the hole with the mud or the piece of wood and window screen

Whats the wierdest thing we found that was used to fill a hole or brace the mud !

I found an old "Negro Quepy doll) in a 54 ford in the quarter panel bracing the filler!! LOL

Jester

http://www.hotrodders.com/forum/atta...1&d=1355249473
12-11-2012 10:47 AM
boatbob2
Putty.........

Hi all,please post photos of the bondo chunks that fall out,we can all use a good laugh...........
12-10-2012 11:29 AM
painted jester deadbodyman:

I was working on an old Mopar Engine and trans install a few months ago!! I lowered the engine and bumped the cross member hard and a 3 foot x one foot piece droped out of the quarter LOL It was a good 6 inches thick It must have been 30 LB.'s !!!!! It was so funny the owner was there with his buddy's talking about what good shape it was in, Everyone was laughing but the owner LOL

Jester
12-10-2012 06:49 AM
deadbodyman I pulled an 05 monty in the shop to fix a damaged door ,a few hours later I was finished and closed the door when I heard something hit the floor ,when I turned around it was any bodymans nightmare....A hudge chunk of bondo just fell out of the 1/4 about 12"x12"and about 1 1/2" thick...IT JUST FELL OUT...I never even touched the 1/4, someone had used a slide puller (I think just for the holes) because it was still shinny paint underneath ,the holes were all that it was holding onto...
The shape of it looked like the state of Texas ,so I saved it and hung it up...Look to theleft of the booth window,its hanging under the shelf...

A couple years later it happend again on an 80 something Porche but this time it looked like the state of Fla...I saved that one too...I sure hope my United states of bondo collection ends here I'd hate to end up any more...Or whats next ..... Jesus or the virgin Mary
12-09-2012 08:06 PM
deadbodyman
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I think of it this way, a good painter can make mid grade paint look good, a bad painter can't make high end paint look good.
Man,you said it right there...but a even a really good high end painter cant make SS metallic look as good as a macco painter can...That is, even if he wanted too ...man, they can spray the heck out of that cheap stuff...But some of that good stuff is awful hard to mess up ....I hit the side mirror and stopped dead in my tracks and was spacing out and didnt let off the ttrigger I knew I'd sure enough get a nice run because I do it a lot but that SW SS kadac yellow never ran I couldnt believe it ,same with the spi clear ,it really makes me look a lot better than I really am.
12-09-2012 05:39 PM
gearheadslife people did hella good jobs with a lot less not all that long ago..
most times the mid grade paint job ,scares the owner into not driving it. and then ,sells because it's never used.. it's become a life sized hotwheels..
owners have got pissed at my dad when he'd try to talk them out of the mid/high paint systems on a driver.. try'n to explain.. they'll be afraid to get a chip in it and chance a wreck..
some don't hear what he said untill it's sat in their garage for a year + and seen one or two shows because they can't enjoy it.. as they are freaking out driving it.. and the next car.. gets what daddo. advises after talking to them on what they want out of the CAR. when done..
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