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12-11-2012 02:30 PM
cobalt327
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Originally Posted by kentactic View Post
Ya i beveled the edge with a file to get it to go. The bolts didnt line up all that well. I kind of fudged it.
Might be too late to help you, but:

Oil pump pick up installation tool

12-11-2012 01:42 PM
kentactic
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Originally Posted by 1971BB427 View Post
They rarely seat all the way in, so if the mounting tab lines up with the bolt it's good. Since the pickup is on the suction side, not pressure side, it doesn't have leak issues unless it's loose in the pump.
It's in now, but in the future if you have issues pressing a pickup tube into a pump try lightly sanding the end of the tube on a sander. I bevel the end on my belt sander before trying to press them in, and it really does well in making them go in easier.
Ya i beveled the edge with a file to get it to go. The bolts didnt line up all that well. I kind of fudged it.
12-11-2012 12:51 PM
1971BB427 They rarely seat all the way in, so if the mounting tab lines up with the bolt it's good. Since the pickup is on the suction side, not pressure side, it doesn't have leak issues unless it's loose in the pump.
It's in now, but in the future if you have issues pressing a pickup tube into a pump try lightly sanding the end of the tube on a sander. I bevel the end on my belt sander before trying to press them in, and it really does well in making them go in easier.
12-10-2012 07:05 PM
kentactic
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Originally Posted by farmwalker View Post
What is the part number on that pick up tube? And whats your pan depth?? I have a 8 and 1/4 deep pan with the same pump. I got a simillar looking pick up and it would not fit. The pick up tube went too deep and was tuching my pan. When I called the store back, they said "that's the one the computer said was for it;" so they did a mock up on a block and HV pump they had there and it wouldn't fit there either. They ended up giving me a moroso pick up for cost. It was only 10 bucks more then. SO CHECK YOUR DEPTH BEFORE YOU GO WELDING ANYTHING. Other than that have fun!!

Im not sure it even has a part number on it. Its not infront of me to check but i dont recall seeing one. I will deffinatly test fit before i weld it though.
12-10-2012 06:14 PM
farmwalker What is the part number on that pick up tube? And whats your pan depth?? I have a 8 and 1/4 deep pan with the same pump. I got a simillar looking pick up and it would not fit. The pick up tube went too deep and was tuching my pan. When I called the store back, they said "that's the one the computer said was for it;" so they did a mock up on a block and HV pump they had there and it wouldn't fit there either. They ended up giving me a moroso pick up for cost. It was only 10 bucks more then. SO CHECK YOUR DEPTH BEFORE YOU GO WELDING ANYTHING. Other than that have fun!!
12-07-2012 06:48 PM
kentactic Ok i got the pickup on. I didnt get it pressed all the way in, but id say its over halfway. I didnt want to continue hitting it as im pretty sure i would bust through the tube shortly. Is this thing in enough as it is in the picture (hard to really tell i know) that if ithe pan depth checks out i can tack weld it in place and call it good? Or if it checks out good should i just bang it all the way in and hope it dosent bust?
12-07-2012 06:16 AM
cdminter59
pressing oil pickup tube

Kenny, don't worry about trying to bolt the pickup to the pump. Put the pickup in the freezer overnite. Have everything ready to press the pickup in. Press it in as far as you can if the bolts line up fine if they don't forget it. Bolt the pump to the bearing cap and use a straight edge as wide as the oil pan rails. You will want 8 1/8" measurement from the straight edge to each side of the the oil pan rails. This means it level and you will have a 3/8" gap. 8 7/16 oilpan depth + 1/16 thickness of gasket = 8 1/2 - 3/8 = 8 1/8. Then remove the pump wrap it in a wet rag and tack weld the pickup to the pump reinstall the pump. If you want you can submerge the screen in oil and spin the pump shaft until oil comes out.
12-06-2012 10:15 PM
kentactic
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Originally Posted by hcompton View Post
It will probalby need to be beat out if you do. They never come out as easy as they go in. And if ylu fighting it in then it wont come out easily.
Ya im affraid i might destroy it on the removal. well see. My friend knows everyone at the local ice radiator so maybe ill just have it cleaned up first. if it works ill leave it. if it dosent work i dont care if i destroy it.
12-06-2012 08:57 PM
hcompton
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Originally Posted by kentactic View Post
Ya thats true i dont really need to press it ALL the way in for the mock up.
It will probalby need to be beat out if you do. They never come out as easy as they go in. And if ylu fighting it in then it wont come out easily.
12-06-2012 08:48 PM
kentactic
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Originally Posted by hcompton View Post
It can take some heat. But just hit it with the mig one spot weld is all you need just like the factory. It will seal when you press it in. You can always push it in a little further the second time.
Ya thats true i dont really need to press it ALL the way in for the mock up.
12-06-2012 08:17 PM
hcompton
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Originally Posted by kentactic View Post
Awesome Richard thanks for all the help so far. Have fun!

My question for when you return is, is it ok to reuse the same pickup once its been pressed and then pulled once? Id really like to braze the pickup when its a done deal to ensure a perfect seal. so im guessing i need to pull the pump apart to protect internal parts from over heating?
It can take some heat. But just hit it with the mig one spot weld is all you need just like the factory. It will seal when you press it in. You can always push it in a little further the second time.
12-06-2012 08:03 PM
kentactic
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Originally Posted by techinspector1 View Post
Welcome to the "TRUST NOBODY" school of engine building.
First, mock everything up with the screen you have on hand. If it's the proper depth to reach your target pan clearance, take it to a radiator repair shop and have it boiled out and use it. If it is not the proper depth, determine how much more depth you need and get on the horn with the supplier.
My catalog lists only high performance parts. The M55HV must be considered a more or less "stock-type part", as it is not shown. I have a M-99-HV-S, which is high volume and high pressure.

Kenny, I have a date right now and have to go. Will continue this tomorrow. I'm enjoying this thread very much.
Richard
Awesome Richard thanks for all the help so far. Have fun!

My question for when you return is, is it ok to reuse the same pickup once its been pressed and then pulled once? Id really like to braze the pickup when its a done deal to ensure a perfect seal. so im guessing i need to pull the pump apart to protect internal parts from over heating?
12-06-2012 07:55 PM
techinspector1
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Originally Posted by kentactic View Post
Its interesting it says 8.25" pan when i just measured it at 8.437". Am i understanding this correctly that once i added a gasket then the ideal pickup depth would be about 8.25'' ? so perhaps the 8.25 is pickup depth not total pan depth?
Welcome to the "TRUST NOBODY" school of engine building.
First, mock everything up with the screen you have on hand. If it's the proper depth to reach your target pan clearance, take it to a radiator repair shop and have it boiled out and use it. If it is not the proper depth, determine how much more depth you need and get on the horn with the supplier.
My catalog lists only high performance parts. The M55HV must be considered a more or less "stock-type part", as it is not shown. I have a M-99-HV-S, which is high volume and high pressure.

Kenny, I have a date right now and have to go. Will continue this tomorrow. I'm enjoying this thread very much.
Richard
12-06-2012 07:41 PM
kentactic
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Originally Posted by techinspector1 View Post
I have a high-performance Melling catalog. Please post the part number of your pump and screen.
Heres the exact kit i ordered. You can see the M-55HV on the box for the pump in the picture. I dont think the pickup is melling. Im sure this pickup is as good as any for a starting point unfourtunatly its rusted out. Could i just clean the pickup out with my rifle bore brushes or something and give it a whirl or am i better off trying again?

Its interesting it says 8.25" pan when i just measured it at 8.437". Am i understanding this correctly that once i added a gasket then the ideal pickup depth would be about 8.25'' ? so perhaps the 8.25 is pickup depth not total pan depth?

SBC Drag Race Oil Pan, Pickup, Pump, Shaft, Stud Kit - KMJ Performance
12-06-2012 07:21 PM
techinspector1 I have a high-performance Melling catalog. Please post the part number of your pump and screen.
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