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04-17-2013 02:50 PM
thinwhiteduke That's very interesting mate, who would have thought? thanks for that. Sounds like ill be sticking to the button shift, seeing as I have the compatible valve body for that shift. Cheers..



Duke
04-15-2013 02:34 PM
33Willys77 '64 and '65 lever-shifted Mopar automatics are controlled by two cables (one shift, one park), just like '64 and earlier pushbutton units. They attach to the transmission the same, whether there's a lever or a set of buttons and a park slider on the other end. There is an internal difference between button- and lever-shifted cable-operated Torqueflites: the manual valve for lever-shifted units has a second Neutral position on the other side of Reverse, so the manual valve positions are N-R-N-D-2-1. The button-shift units have only the one Neutral position since the park slider engages the Neutral button, so the manual valve positions are R-N-D-2-1. In both cases, the park lock is separate. The rod-shift transmission's first year was '66.
04-15-2013 01:40 PM
thinwhiteduke Yes, mine has the park lever, no transmition drum brake..



Duke
04-15-2013 07:18 AM
33Willys77 Does your push button have park? I think the ones 1961 and earlier did not have park - they used a brake drum on the tailshaft.
04-15-2013 03:22 AM
thinwhiteduke Thanks mate, there's not many of em left now, very sought after now. A real, real, 'REAL'! 'fixer-up-er-a' will sell for 30 grand. Rusty shell go for fifteen. Mine, prolly $50G++. It's crazy, they're cool, but they're not THAT facking great!

This thing didn't meet reserve price and passed in at 10K...it's the least desirable model with the poorest engine/Trans options, and needs ALOT of work..

HOLDEN HT MONARO GTS COUPE 1969 like HK HG | eBay
(click on the 'ended' pic for more pics)

Thankyou for your efforts regarding the shifter, sounds like I be best off to work with what I got - the pushbutton- kinda cool anyways. I reckon I can make it look at home somehow with a bit of ingenuity and fabrication, cheers!



Duke
04-14-2013 07:48 AM
RWENUTS By the way, I sure like the style of your Manaro!
Saw an orange one torturing all the old folks in Dunedin NZ when we were down for a holiday 20 years ago.
Lumpy cam, blasting pipes, laying rubber from every stop light in the city!!
04-14-2013 07:41 AM
RWENUTS Here's the link. The price and condition of this one tells you how rare they are.
You're much better off with the push buttons compared to the console shifter. Nice thing about the cables is you can mount a push button box anywhere.
Mopar 1964 1965 Polara Sport Fury Coronet 500 Auto Floor Console | eBay
04-14-2013 03:05 AM
thinwhiteduke Thanks for those contacts!
I tried to search ebay for those couple just to have a look what they look like, but can't find em? Can you send me a link for those please ?
800 is way to much, I agree, but I'd like to have a look all the same, to see the style.
You reckon the console shifter not much chop for a performance application ?
I NEED performance application for this. It's going to be a 12.5:1 high reving 383 sbc with 5000 stall . Maybe sounds like I be better off running the pushbutton ?? I got two of them, just gotta make look pretty in a case and mount somehow..



Duke
04-13-2013 08:09 PM
RWENUTS I found a couple on ebay but they're asking upwards of 800 bucks. Way too much. Contact this guy. He builds old mopars.
Classic Cars For Sale Billings Montana 59105 Antique Vintage Cars Action Huntley - MOPAR Farm

Or search around on here.
The 1962, 1963, 1964, 1965 Mopar Web Site Welcome Page
04-13-2013 07:50 PM
thinwhiteduke Thanks for that link man, I appreciate it!!!



Duke
04-13-2013 07:48 PM
thinwhiteduke
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Originally Posted by RWENUTS View Post
Not common over here but likely available on ebay maybe. Here's some info on them for you. THose floor shifters weren't for speed shifting. The pushbutton style worked well.
New Features for 1964 - Torqueflite Design Changes
Ooh...ok, thanks mate, I'll check that out



Duke
04-13-2013 07:10 PM
RWENUTS Not common over here but likely available on ebay maybe. Here's some info on them for you. THose floor shifters weren't for speed shifting. The pushbutton style worked well.
New Features for 1964 - Torqueflite Design Changes
04-13-2013 07:04 PM
thinwhiteduke
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Originally Posted by 33Willys77 View Post
If you are going with an aftermarket shifter, why not go with a newer 727? That way you can have the new torque converters too - and get a higher stall if needed. The 2 transmissions have different pumps.
Because I have an early type already, pulled from a drag car, running. Has had bell housing machined off and a scattershield beautifully fabricated from 1/4" plate steel fitted that accepts SBC block pattern. Have the tail shafts made up and high quality 5000rpm stall converter to suit. Also have the pushbutton change which I can use if I have to, but would prefer a floor shift.



Duke
04-13-2013 06:54 PM
thinwhiteduke
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Originally Posted by RWENUTS View Post
I've never seen one! But you can find a console shifter for the push button style tranny. 64 Sport Fury's and 65 Satellites had them. 65 was the last year for cable operated tranny's IIRC.
Thanks for that info, it's the kind I needed. It's hard to research stuff like that sometimes. Are those things console shifters something that is possible to find easily ? Not a chance in hell here in AUS I must admit, I haven't googled it yet or even seen an image. Might be ugly as crap for all I know.

Good lead!



Duke
04-13-2013 03:58 PM
33Willys77 If you are going with an aftermarket shifter, why not go with a newer 727? That way you can have the new torque converters too - and get a higher stall if needed. The 2 transmissions have different pumps.
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