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04-29-2013 09:52 PM
NEW INTERIORS
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Originally Posted by 69 widetrack View Post
So true Randy...and sometimes more than two sides. I think most people have had to give up things that they didn't want to, I know I've had a few things that I thought I would keep forever....and sometimes circumstances can dictate priorities. The people that I'm talking about about are the ones that are trying to take advantage right from the start and know what they are going to do.

If the guy suddenly came upon real hard times, I can understand and would bare no ill will...stuff happens. If it was planned...may his profits haunt him.

Ray
I was only Pointing out what happens sometimes,,, Yes there is some that only want what's best for them,,, But there is some that fall on hard times that have no choice,,, Don't ask how I know about that..,Family first
04-29-2013 12:54 PM
69 widetrack
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Originally Posted by NEW INTERIORS View Post
Remember there's always two sides to every story,,, I had some I thought I would NEVER part with... But things happen and family comes first....Never know why he did what he did..
So true Randy...and sometimes more than two sides. I think most people have had to give up things that they didn't want to, I know I've had a few things that I thought I would keep forever....and sometimes circumstances can dictate priorities. The people that I'm talking about about are the ones that are trying to take advantage right from the start and know what they are going to do.

If the guy suddenly came upon real hard times, I can understand and would bare no ill will...stuff happens. If it was planned...may his profits haunt him.

Ray
04-29-2013 12:46 PM
69 widetrack
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Originally Posted by deadbodyman View Post
I dont do to many like that ,usually I cant wait for them to pic them up..
And even with all the heart ache of seeing them go, I enjoy those the most...one reason I quite painting in a shop was because I got tired of painting front fenders on a Toyota Corolla or Honda Civic...LOL

Ray
04-29-2013 06:25 AM
deadbodyman
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Originally Posted by 69 widetrack View Post
Well Mike...I'm just happy I figured out how to post pictures...it was getting embarrassing...one step at a time...LOL...Now...just like yourself...I gotta figure out how to get more pictures from camera onto my computer...the ones I have on my computer where put on there my my neighbors kid.

You know Bob, not all people would understand the fact that it is difficult to give a car back to a customer after you've poured your heart and soul into it...it's like it becomes a part of you..almost like your own kid and I've never seriously considered putting up one of my kids for adoption...for any long periods of time...LOL

Ray
I dont do to many like that ,usually I cant wait for them to pic them up..
04-28-2013 08:30 PM
NEW INTERIORS Remember there's always two sides to every story,,, I had some I thought I would NEVER part with... But things happen and family comes first....Never know why he did what he did..
04-28-2013 07:34 PM
MARTINSR
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Originally Posted by 69 widetrack View Post
I hate that more than you know. I had a friend of a friend come to me years ago with a 70 Firebird (You know how much I love I love my Pontiacs). It was a decent car, a bit of rust but very respectable. He went on and on about how much he loved the car, always wanted one finally found one for a reasonable price ($750) and how little money he had. I listened as he told me that if I could just patch it up and paint it he would be forever grateful but he only had limited funds.

I cut out the rust, repaired the quarters, blocked the car until it was as straight as an arrow. When he picked up the car he was overjoyed and again told me how he had always wanted one and just loved the car. He paid me the agreed upon amount (which basically covered materials), drove off into the sunset.

Two weeks later, he auctioned the car off for almost 10 times what I charged him. Did he have a change of heart, no, this was his plan the whole time...was I pissed, still am.

Ray
My brother had a guy here in town with a nice 65 Chevelle convertible. The problem was the frame was GONE rusted really bad. But the rest was pretty solid. The guy sold it to my brother just to get rid of it being it really needed a frame and he didn't want to look anyone in the eye selling it so he sold it for a cheap price to my brother so he could get it to a good home. Some guy heard thru the grape vine he had it and came to look at it. My brother explained how bad the frame was a the guy looked under the car and said he wanted one to restore for years and really wanted the car bad and being the price reflected the bad frame he could afford it and was thrilled. He planned on doing a frame off he said and would replace it as part of the project. He bought it for many thousands of dollars less than one with a nice frame so he was happy. My brother got a call from a friend of his who was at a huge swap meet that is held about a hundred miles from here a week later and yep, there was the car! This dude had put some different wheels on it and lowered it so no one could see the frame and sold the car making about $8000! Friggin scum

Brian
04-28-2013 04:01 PM
sedanbob Ray, You know I know the feeling! I don't understand people like that, guess I never will.
04-28-2013 12:39 PM
69 widetrack
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Originally Posted by sedanbob View Post
Yeah Ray, adoption leaves too much of a paper trail -- better to just leave them by the side of the road!

I painted a Cutlass for a friend. Took it from oxidized gray to beautiful black. I was quite proud of it. He got a lot of compliments on the car after that. Kept it 3 weeks then sold it! If I had known that I would have turned down the job. I spent longer than that getting it prepped.
I hate that more than you know. I had a friend of a friend come to me years ago with a 70 Firebird (You know how much I love I love my Pontiacs). It was a decent car, a bit of rust but very respectable. He went on and on about how much he loved the car, always wanted one finally found one for a reasonable price ($750) and how little money he had. I listened as he told me that if I could just patch it up and paint it he would be forever grateful but he only had limited funds.

I cut out the rust, repaired the quarters, blocked the car until it was as straight as an arrow. When he picked up the car he was overjoyed and again told me how he had always wanted one and just loved the car. He paid me the agreed upon amount (which basically covered materials), drove off into the sunset.

Two weeks later, he auctioned the car off for almost 10 times what I charged him. Did he have a change of heart, no, this was his plan the whole time...was I pissed, still am.

Ray
04-28-2013 12:28 PM
sedanbob Yeah Ray, adoption leaves too much of a paper trail -- better to just leave them by the side of the road!

I painted a Cutlass for a friend. Took it from oxidized gray to beautiful black. I was quite proud of it. He got a lot of compliments on the car after that. Kept it 3 weeks then sold it! If I had known that I would have turned down the job. I spent longer than that getting it prepped.
04-28-2013 11:21 AM
69 widetrack Well Mike...I'm just happy I figured out how to post pictures...it was getting embarrassing...one step at a time...LOL...Now...just like yourself...I gotta figure out how to get more pictures from camera onto my computer...the ones I have on my computer where put on there my my neighbors kid.

You know Bob, not all people would understand the fact that it is difficult to give a car back to a customer after you've poured your heart and soul into it...it's like it becomes a part of you..almost like your own kid and I've never seriously considered putting up one of my kids for adoption...for any long periods of time...LOL

Ray
04-28-2013 09:44 AM
sedanbob
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Originally Posted by 69 widetrack View Post
... When I do work on a vehicle, you know, those big jobs that you pour your heart and soul into and work on it as though it is your own for six months to a year, sometimes, the hardest thing for me to do when it's done...is give the customer the keys...(That Chevy Short box was damn difficult...so he let me drive it for a bit...un bloody real...not a typical street ride, the truck is nuts)...then I felt somewhat better giving the keys back...LOL.
Ray, I think I told you about my friend painting a '33 Cabriolet for another friend. Mark, the painter is totally busting his butt and making this car beautiful, not just a great paint job, but all sorts of refinements and nice touches. I have teased Brian, the owner, that this car is coming out so nice that Mark might not give it back! Mark has been pouring heart and soul into this car.
Bob
04-28-2013 09:36 AM
sedanbob [quote=deadbodyman;1670784]
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Originally Posted by 69 widetrack View Post
It could be he's from missouri (the "show me" state) and not a canadian at all..
Us folks from Missouri aren't all that stubborn... some of us are much worse!
04-28-2013 08:40 AM
deadbodyman
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Originally Posted by 69 widetrack View Post
Thank you so much Henry, you acknowledging the paint work means a lot to me. I do appreciate it. Thank you. Finally being able to post pictures makes me feel better about the whole thing as well and thank you for your help. The photobucket thing is going to take me a little more time but I think I might use it for logging my photo's for each build as a back up.

Ray
What I do is down load my camera into a USB (vids too) for safe keeping..Well ,I have my wife do it......Then all I do is plug it in my lap top and pull them up and post them from that.....
04-28-2013 08:36 AM
deadbodyman [quote=69 widetrack;1670522]
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Originally Posted by 496CHEVY3100 View Post
If you have told him your opinion ,Once, and he has not changed any thing he probably wont,Sad to say,[/QUOT

Your right, telling him wouldn't have done a thing...put we did put on a seminar using his vehicle as an example, got his vehicle repaired properly, showed him how much better it worked seeing he had all the equipment he needed and he is now a believer...a strong believer. Probably this is the longest time I've spent to show the right way but it worked out very well.

Ray
It could be he's from missouri (the "show me" state) and not a canadian at all..
04-27-2013 01:13 AM
NEW INTERIORS
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Originally Posted by 69 widetrack View Post
That is gorgeous Randy, 5 weeks, pretty impressive. You mentioned in a previous post that you can see a project done before you start...I'm the same way...it doesn't matter if it's remodeling a kitchen or building a car and I can only speak for me but, I think that's key.

I always sit down with a customer and talk, not only about the vehicle, but, to get to know him, likes and dislikes and after a while you can often make suggestions and hit that nail right on the head. I'm on a build now for a customer that I've done work for in the past so I pretty much know what he likes. Last Summer, we talked on the phone for a few hours one night and discussed the possibility of building a car that he had been thinking about and he told me that he would be coming into my neck of the woods in a short time and we should talk more. When he arrived, we went out for several pops and I was carrying a round tube with me, I opened the tube up and showed him a rendering of what we had talked about...he said build it. It took longer to figure out the budget than it did to decide that he wanted it done...LOL.

There are a list of things that I needed more information on and that's how I ended up here...I found that many members had the information I needed when it came to suspension and drive train and it's been a great resource. Being on my own is great...I work on what I always wanted to work on and can take real pride in what I do...but I still often missed that problem solving for shops when I was a rep...this forum has help fill part of that void and I hope I've been able to give back for all the knowledge I've received.

You never know Randy...We both have very much the same interests...and when that happens, paths cross more often than we think possible...If it's OK..I'd like to send you a PM tomorrow, I'd do it today but it's about 1 AM out here and I have another early morning planned for Saturday.

Ray
Send me one anytime..1:09 AM here right now... I have something at church at 10:00am today with my Godchild,, But I should be home anytime after that.. Have a good night.. Randy
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