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01-24-2014 11:29 AM
Denny What I would do is get a Ford distributor with the plug ins on it, and try it in the machine. Before I started switching anything. Then, go from there.
01-24-2014 10:13 AM
xxxxxxxxojh
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Originally Posted by Denny View Post
That box IS the Ford ignition module. That plug in plugs into a Ford distributor for testing. Same as it would be on the vehicle itself.
The Red & Green wires went to the post on the side, they were joined; the stater (purple & orange) and ground (black) go to that plug extending on the pigtail. If i read the scematic right the Red is +12v and the green is trigger for the coil, thye should not be joined. It looks to me i should join the Red & White and give them +12v; the green would go to strobelight & ground side of the coil. The Purple & orange to the magnetic + & - pickup and the Black is ground @ the distr - is this right?
Can i both trigger on the Green the stobe light and fire the coil at the same time or will i get 12v thru the coil and damage the internal workings of the Sun, maybe do one or the other but not both?
The Red and Green wires joined and connected at the post is what is giving me pause.
01-24-2014 09:31 AM
Denny
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Is this it? I pulled the cover off one side of the machine to expose this add-on module, it looks like it is from a Ford.
The stud on the left is isolated and something clips to it - i think the alligator clip from the internal strobe light of the machine clips to it.
What hooks into the plug/connector - the box has no seperate power supply, one of those wires must be +12v supply for the box and the other 2?
Thanks, oj
That box IS the Ford ignition module. That plug in plugs into a Ford distributor for testing. Same as it would be on the vehicle itself.
01-24-2014 08:24 AM
xxxxxxxxojh
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Originally Posted by Denny View Post
Ok, that's used for the trigger. To flash the light each time a cylinder would fire. It shows the spark pattern on the distributor machine. As in making sure each cylinder fires at the same time, by comparing the pattern.
Here's a diagram I found, and as you see, it is the pickup, pole piece, reluctor. (they have 3 different names), but mean the same thing.
You may still need a voltage supply

http://nnyoffroad.com/wiki/images/b/...k2-diagram.gif
Is this it? I pulled the cover off one side of the machine to expose this add-on module, it looks like it is from a Ford.
The stud on the left is isolated and something clips to it - i think the alligator clip from the internal strobe light of the machine clips to it.
What hooks into the plug/connector - the box has no seperate power supply, one of those wires must be +12v supply for the box and the other 2?
Thanks, oj
01-18-2014 12:02 PM
Denny Ok, that's used for the trigger. To flash the light each time a cylinder would fire. It shows the spark pattern on the distributor machine. As in making sure each cylinder fires at the same time, by comparing the pattern.
Here's a diagram I found, and as you see, it is the pickup, pole piece, reluctor. (they have 3 different names), but mean the same thing.
You may still need a voltage supply

http://nnyoffroad.com/wiki/images/b/...k2-diagram.gif
01-18-2014 11:41 AM
xxxxxxxxojh I probed the connector and couldn't read any voltage. The pigtail has been added so I guess i need to go inside the machine to see where and what it is doing. I didn't see it when i redid the mechanicals and table etc, I didn't have that side of the machine apart.
It looks like a ford plug to me, anybody recognize it?
01-17-2014 08:06 PM
Denny What is the voltage reading from that connector ?
01-17-2014 10:39 AM
xxxxxxxxojh What a coincidence! I posted yesterday in the electrical section about adding a sparkplug rack and coil to my 504 machine to add the ability to test msd type ignitions. I am concerned with isolating the plugrcak & coils from the machine. What do you guys think?
I added a couple pictures in the original thread as well, i am working on it now adding the switches and an amp meter to the 12v power supply for the CD boxes.

As far as the HEI connection i thought you needed another box, mine has a pigtail and what looks like a connector for a ford - can this be used?
01-16-2014 06:24 PM
Denny That's correct. What I did was locate a 12 volt source and use that, A ground to the distributor, and it works. If I remember right, the board that is on there is about 8 volts, but that even is enough to trigger the HEI. You just can't the high rpm's with it.
11-30-2012 08:14 PM
Gary Kosier If you have a complete HEI distributor, you don't even need a pulse amplifier.
All you need is a 12 volt power source. I use a cheap wall-wort, plugged into
the back of the machine. There are three wires coming out of the dizzy.
One hot, one ground and the third is the trigger for the machine. Don't look
for a proper plug to match the harness on the dizzy. The only one made is
on the Kent-Moore module tester and they don't make that themselves. I've
got one, but it was a long struggle.

Gary Kosier
11-10-2012 04:48 PM
sss79ta
hei pulse amp

Can someone tell me how to hook up my sun pulse amp with my hei distributor and my sun 500 distributor tester?
10-20-2012 02:02 AM
Big Bunny
sun distributor tester parts

Paramount distributor company will have all the parts you need .
Check web or phone 616-878-9734
3691 76th st. sw Byron Center Michigan 49315

Cheers from the Big Bunny
10-16-2008 01:52 PM
PatM Mark Saunders, who posted his email above, is a great help. I had several discussions with him before buying my machine. And, then . . . .I bought a pulse amplifier from him. He's very knowledgable and seems to have about everything. He could even have various panels on you machine repainted, and he has silk-screen masks to make all the lettering come out perfectly. I was not that particualr, and my machine is no great looker. But it works, so it's fun to play with. I promise you won't regret talking with Mark.

Pat
09-28-2008 08:06 PM
lust4speed Bummer, the guy had been retired for quite some time from Sun when I posted the information back 4-1/2 years ago. Hopefully he just gave up on the side business and is spending his time fishing -- but he might just not be around anymore. Try the 800 number and see if those guys might have another number that would work for you. There's a ton of the old Sun machines out there, and maybe there is still a source for parts.
09-25-2008 10:57 AM
Packard V8 815-344-6538 "has been disconnected or no longer in service."
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